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Old 12-01-2021, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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No motive yet and the suspect is not talking to the police.
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“He came out with the intent to kill people. He was shooting people at close range, oftentimes toward the head or chest,” Sheriff Michael Bouchard said on CNN early Wednesday. “It’s chilling. It’s just absolutely cold-hearted murderous.”
4th teenager dies after school shooting in Michigan; police say suspect had 'intent to kill'
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Old 12-01-2021, 12:33 PM
 
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Who hasn't been bullied? I was bullied when I was a kid at some time or the other. It sucked but it also was just part of growing up. I used to have a really bad temper, super bad actually. But no matter how screwed up it was, I never had the idea to bring a gun to school and shoot up the place, not even to use a gun on those who tried to bully me, which if anyone, that's the only individuals I would have held accountable and targeted, not the entire class/school.

Kids these days have been seriously turned out. Look at, for example, the two morons who killed a Spanish teacher in Iowa a few months ago. Those two look like their confused over which bathroom they should be using. Turned out! Public school style.

Exactly. Bully's have been around forever. I also remember a time when you could see shotguns hanging in the racks in pickups in HS parking lots. Imagine that, high school kids bringing firearms to school....

Somewhere , somehow , society has degraded to this point.
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Old 12-01-2021, 12:43 PM
 
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The gun used in the shooting by Ethan Crumbley was purchased by his father just 3 days before the attack, on Black Friday.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/01/michig...than-crumbley/

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His father purchased the 9mm Sig Sauer used in the shooting just four days earlier on Black Friday, Oakland County Sheriff Michael Bouchard said.

Crumbley had posted photos of the gun, and him firing it, in the lead-up to the school shooting, the sheriff added.
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Old 12-01-2021, 12:48 PM
 
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Exactly. Bully's have been around forever. I also remember a time when you could see shotguns hanging in the racks in pickups in HS parking lots. Imagine that, high school kids bringing firearms to school....

Somewhere , somehow , society has degraded to this point.
LOL, yeah, I had a gun rack in my truck that I drove to high school. But I didn't have a shotgun in it. Instead I had this very nice double bladed axe sitting in it.
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Old 12-01-2021, 12:50 PM
 
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They said bullying. "Chicks" can certainly bully people. But once a person makes the decision to "shoot up the school" he probably doesn't care who he shoots.
It really looks as though he was targeting kids out of jealousy. A 17 year old, pretty, highly accomplished student who already had college acceptances including full ride offers, a 16 year old, handsome football player, a pretty 14 year old volleyball player.

I just don't believe that he selected these victims because they had been bullying him. They may not have noticed him, but that doesn't mean that they were bullying him.
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Old 12-01-2021, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Before anyone starts with gun control.

There is a serious mental health issue in this country. Social media has created a new norm of hating and pressure on today's youth unlike we've never seen before.

Arm the teachers...problem solved.
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Old 12-01-2021, 01:00 PM
 
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It really looks as though he was targeting kids out of jealousy. A 17 year old, pretty, highly accomplished student who already had college acceptances including full ride offers, a 16 year old, handsome football player, a pretty 14 year old volleyball player.

I just don't believe that he selected these victims because they had been bullying him. They may not have noticed him, but that doesn't mean that they were bullying him.
So now kids interpret being turned down as a form of bullying? I wouldn't doubt it.
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Old 12-01-2021, 01:07 PM
 
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It really looks as though he was targeting kids out of jealousy. A 17 year old, pretty, highly accomplished student who already had college acceptances including full ride offers, a 16 year old, handsome football player, a pretty 14 year old volleyball player.

I just don't believe that he selected these victims because they had been bullying him. They may not have noticed him, but that doesn't mean that they were bullying him.
The kid was a sophomore, it's the sophomores place to be bullied...at least it was when I started HS. It just came with the territory of being "fresh meat" . I changed that by dating senior girls...that didn't go over to well but I was eventually excepted.

More proof that we have failed in raising our kids to overcome adversity in life.
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Old 12-01-2021, 01:08 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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When I was a kid, I never heard of these school shootings. They simply didn't happen. Guns were everywhere. My father kept a handgun, unlocked, and as a kid stumbled upon it, and me and my friend played with it. It almost ended in tragedy but safety was on.

Something happened to our kids. Guns are a tool, and while they make killing massive amounts of people easier, we're not addressing why our kids want to do this in the first place. Going after guns is going after a symptom, not root cause of this problem.
My dad kept loaded guns in car, nightstand and flight bag (commercial pilot). He took my brothers and I to shooting range when I was 5 and brothers were 6,7,and 9. Taught us to assume all guns are loaded, to never point a gun at a person unless you intend on killing them, and that we are not to touch guns unless in presence of adult at shooting range.
We never went into nightstand, flt bag or glovebox. We had a respect for guns, and by going to gun range, our curiosity was removed. I now own several guns, shot Expert in Military.
In high school (suburb of ATL), kids would drive trucks to school with shotguns in gun rack. Teachers would go out at lunch time to see student's new gun and compare. No school shootings. Some of the safest gun handlers are kids raised where hunting is popular.
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Old 12-01-2021, 01:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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He's being charged as an adult and as a terrorist.
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