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Old 11-30-2021, 04:46 PM
 
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Since there is a reportedly eight million kids on mood altering drugs, where do we house all of these non-criminals? And how do we afford it?
Good point about kids on drugs. My neighbor told me her son’s teacher kept pushing her to get her son checked for ADHD and how he might need meds. She found out through talking to other parents that lots of teachers push to get kids medicated.
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Old 11-30-2021, 04:50 PM
 
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We have become a society that marginalizes men and boys. We tell them they're evil and dumb. We tell them if people don't go to college they're nothing but most spots are taken by women due to affirmative action
Affirmative Action is banned in Michigan since 2006

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirm..._United_States
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Old 11-30-2021, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Before anyone starts on mental health ...

Republicans never propose, nor do they willingly fund, national mental health programs. It is not in their bailiwick.

'Mental health' is used as an excuse for, not a reason for gun violence. If it were not so they would surely make proposals on how to help with the issue. They do nothing.
I agree that mental institutions need to come back. Way too many crazies out there. They need Nurse Ratchet and her 'medication time'.
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Old 11-30-2021, 04:57 PM
 
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There are mental health issue in many countries but they don't have mass shootings with this frequency, what are we doing differently. I can think of one thing.
Back to blaming the firearms again, i see.
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Old 11-30-2021, 04:58 PM
 
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Right. It was the democrats who closed the mental health institutions in the 70s. I’m right leaning and think we have a responsibility to help those with mental issues. What I am against in is calling everything under the sun mental illness like the left wants to do. There is real mental illness and woke mental illness. We should treat real mental illness and tell the woke to toughen up.

Some if not most of these shootings have nothing to do with mental illness but moral illness.
All too prevalent in our nation these days.
You can't tear the moral fabric down and expect hings to get better.
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I equate the mental health issue to the homeless crisis in this country. There's no workable solution. Period. No matter how much money we throw at it (and it's a ton), the problem will only get worse. And that's irrespective of what political party is in office.
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:07 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Good read on youth and mental health.

"Dr. Ovid, pediatric neurologist, warns of a silent tragedy that is unfolding in our homes today.
There is a silent tragedy unfolding today in our homes, and concerns our most beautiful jewelry: our children. Our children are in an emotionally devastating state! Over the past 15 years, researchers have given us more and more alarming statistics on an acute and constant increase in childhood mental illness that is now reaching epidemic proportions:
Stats don't lie:
• 1 in 5 children have mental health issues
• A 43% increase was observed in ADHD
• An increase of 37% in teenage depression has been observed
• A 200% increase in the suicide rate among children aged 10 to 14 has been observed.

What's going on and what's wrong with us?
Kids these days are over-Stimulated and over-given material objects, but they are deprived of the foundations of a healthy childhood, such as:
• Emotionally available parents
• clearly defined boundaries
• Responsibilities
• Balanced nutrition and adequate sleep
• Movement in general but especially outdoors
• Creative gaming, social interaction, informal gaming opportunities and spaces for boredom
Instead, the last few years have been filled with the children of:
• Digital Distracted Parents
• Pampering and permissive parents who let children "rule the world" and be the ones who make the rules
• A sense of law, to earn everything without earning it or being responsible for getting it
• Inappropriate sleep and unbalanced nutrition
• A sedentary lifestyle
• Endless stimulation, technological teddy bears, instant gratification and absence of boring moments
What to do ?
If we want our children to be happy and healthy individuals, we need to wake up and get back to the basics. It is still possible! Many families are seeing immediate improvements after weeks of implementing the following recommendations:
• Set boundaries and remember that you are the captain of the ship. Your children will feel safer knowing you have the government in control.
• Offer children a balanced lifestyle filled with what children need, not just what they want. Don't be afraid to say "no" to your children if what they want isn't what they need.
• Provide nutritious food and limit junk food.
• Spend at least one hour a day outdoors doing activities such as: Cycling, hiking, fishing, bird / insect watching
• Enjoy a daily family dinner without smartphones or technology distracting them.
• Play table games with the family or if the kids are too small for board games, let your interests be carried away and let them be the ones sending in the game
• Involve your children in a task or housework according to their age (folding clothes, ordering toys, hanging clothes, unwrapping food, setting the table, feeding the dog etc. The whole world
• Implement a consistent sleep routine to ensure your child sleeps long enough. Times will be even more important for school-age children.
• Teach responsibility and independence. Don't overprotect them from frustration or error. Being wrong will help them develop resilience and learn to overcome life's challenges,
• Don't load your children's backpack, don't carry your backpacks, don't take them the task they forgot, don't peel their bananas or peel their oranges if they can do it themselves (4-5 years old). Instead of giving them the fish, show them how to fish.
• Teach them to wait and delay gratification.
• Provide opportunities for "boredom", because boredom is the moment when creativity awakens. Don't feel responsible for always keeping kids entertained.
• Do not use technology as a cure for boredom, nor offer it at the first second of inactivity.
• Avoid using technology during meals, in cars, restaurants, shopping malls. Use these moments as opportunities to socialize by training the brains to know how to function when they are in "bored" mode
• Help them create a "Boredom Bottle" with activity ideas for when they're bored.
• Be emotionally available to connect with children and teach them self-regulation and social skills:
• Turn off the phones at night when kids have to go to bed to avoid digital distraction.
• Become an emotional regulator or coach of your children. Teach them to recognize and handle their own frustrations and anger.
• Show them to greet, to take turns, to share without being left without anything, to say thank you and please, to recognize the mistake and apologize (don't force them), be a model for all these values that it instills.
• Connect emotionally - smile, kiss, kiss, tickle, read, dance, jump, play or spoil with them.

Article written by Dr. Luis Rojas Marcos, psychiatrist.
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:10 PM
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Since there is a reportedly eight million kids on mood altering drugs, where do we house all of these non-criminals? And how do we afford it?
Euthanasia for those that are a lost cause.
The handful that can be rehabilitated can go to the asylums.
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Euthanasia for those that are a lost cause.
The handful that can be rehabilitated can go to the asylums.
OK. No further need to respond to you, I see. Goodbye.
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:35 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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We never learn much about the shooter, but I wonder, did anyone notice that his or her life was spiraling downhill?
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