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Old 12-02-2021, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Originally Posted by Floorist View Post
500,000 of the same side effect for people right after vaccination, is too many to be a coincidence. And I am one of the ones who had that side effect. After 9 blood tests and 3 specialists, they all agreed the vaccine must have caused it.
So your doctors determined that in your case. VAERS did not report that there were 500,000 cases attributable to the vaccine.
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Old 12-02-2021, 10:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fisherman99 View Post
Not that much...so what percentage unvaccinated hospitalized and dying from covid now?...still the VAST MAJORITY


Unvaccinated 14 times more likely to die from covid now! WOW!


https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...die-from-covid
CDC is garbage and they lie. Let's look at a study.

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VE-D for age ≥65 years was 52.2% for Janssen, 75.5% for Moderna, and 70.1% for Pfizer-BioNTech.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm0620

VE-D is Vaccine Efficacy for Deaths for people above the age 65.

So for Jannsen it's 50% or unvaccinated twice as likely to die.

For Pfizer, it's 70% so roughly unvaccinated three times as likely to die.

For Moderna, it's 75% so roughly unvaccinated four times as likely to die.

So what do the numbers 2-3-4 have in common? They're far less than 14.

CDC are the biggest spreaders of misinformation in this pandemic. Don't quote them again.
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Old 12-02-2021, 10:56 PM
 
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I got my one and done J and J dose in Spring and won't be getting any boosters unless required for something I want to do. Will take my chances as a healthy 32 year old. Didn't have a bad reaction but am now thinking the vaccines were pointless given the surge and variants and at best have a placebo effect. Worst is the bad side effects but I think that's rare enough for me to take a booster if it was required for going to a convention or international travel.
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Old 12-03-2021, 01:04 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The vaccines are great and the numbers prove it.
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Old 12-03-2021, 01:45 AM
 
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Obvious depop agenda is obvious.
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Old 12-03-2021, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The vaccines are great and the numbers prove it.
Re: the numbers.
We can't factor in what we don't know.
We do know unvaxxed have gotten mild cases of Covid and recovered. We don't know how many never bothered to be tested, skewing the numbers.
We don't know how many unvaxxed got Covid and were both untested and asymptomatic also skewing the numbers.
More importantly, we don't know how many that did take the shots needlessly would have been included in this number.
Add to all this an amount of false positives in the testing procedures.

We DO know that more shots have not correlated with lower rates of cases, regardless of the excuses given.
Numbers can lie when all the variables aren't factored in.
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Old 12-03-2021, 03:31 AM
 
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What makes anyone think that big pharma would give a damn about the safety of these vaccines when they didn't care about the opioid epidemic in which they made billions.
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:14 AM
 
Location: NYC
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A woman that works in my fiancé’s hospital has been out on disability ever since she got the vaccine. She is very sick. So sad
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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A "cabal"?

Like those that gather in basements of DC pizzarias?
The media really has you fooled huh? Not only on covid and the vaccines, but also pizzagate. You do realize they hijacked pizzagate with their own info to try discrediting it.

It was called pizzagate because pizza was the nickname for kids in those leaked emails. It was not named pizzagate because of any particular pizza restaurant. Also remember it was 2016 and people were discovering all the ties epstein had and the flight logs to his island, amount of missing kids in high government areas (Virginia is top 3 even though its like the 11th largest state; Maryland is up there too), etc.

This was also when ghislaine maxwell's name became mainstream for her participation (if you didnt know she is on trial now). Seems to me that the original pizzagate theory (not the one the media pushed about hilary clinton) was actually true.

Exact same thing is happening with these vaccines.
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Old 12-03-2021, 04:27 AM
 
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Straight from Pfizer themselves, we now have the hardest objective evidence yet that these vaccines should have never been approved - how the hell are any Lefties with any of the slightest bit of rationale left going to dare try and deny this one?





https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horow...ing-risk-level



As the Brits say "Done and dusted."


It is looking virtually impossible to deny what is staring us straight in the face.


Not only are the vaccines ineffective, they are actually more dangerous than COVID itself.
A number of issues. First, you make no attempt to estimate what proportion of the candidate adverse events were actually caused by the vaccine. Second, you have attempted to claim a lack of FDA releases somehow represents a cover-up without first ruling out other plausible explanations - such as bureaucracy and understaffing making it difficult to scrub the records of confidential patient information. Third, you have made the blatantly false claim that the vaccine is more deadly than the virus. Even if 100% of VAERS deaths were caused by the vaccine, the mortality rate is still just 0.01%, whereas for the virus it is between 0.3% and 1%.
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