Pfizer vaccine injury data ordered released by judge shows shocking risk level (community, TV)

[Leo58]

Originally Posted by logiatype

This is the kind of refusal to think critically that makes discussion impossible. How can anyone with working brain matter believe this?

“The analysis was released in May of 2021 and looks at COVID-19 related deaths in vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals—only .8% (150) of vaccinated people accounted for the 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May.“

Exactly what part do you not believe? Plenty of data supports that if you are unvaccinated you are far more likely to die of Covid-19.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special...clusives/95119
https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Doc...Vaccinated.pdf
https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covi...on-status.aspx

[Fisherman99]

Originally Posted by Leo58

“The analysis was released in May of 2021 and looks at COVID-19 related deaths in vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals—only .8% (150) of vaccinated people accounted for the 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May.“

Exactly what part do you not believe? Plenty of data supports that if you are unvaccinated you are far more likely to die of Covid-19.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special...clusives/95119
https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Doc...Vaccinated.pdf
https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covi...on-status.aspx

Absolutely true...UNVACCINATED 20 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE per this 11/13/21 Texas study! Most of us will minimize that risk but feel free to have a death wish if you must!

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavi...9/2815409/?amp

[Leo58]

Originally Posted by TMSRetired

You might want to check your own state's covid website.

Here in SC, 33% of covid hospitalizations are vaccinated people and 33% of the covid deaths are vaccinated people. This data as of 11/15


Here's SC's data:

https://scdhec.gov/covid19/covid-19-...lly-vaccinated

So 67% of deaths unvaccinated
And 33% of deaths vaccinated

But 60% of South Carolinians have been vaccinated and 40% unvaccinated

So 33% / 60% = 0.55 for vaccinated
And 67% / 40% = 1.68 for unvaccinated

So you are about 3 times more likely to die if you are unvaccinated, in South Carolina. A bit less than the 10 fold difference seen overall in the US.

[GoldenPineTree]

Originally Posted by tinytrump

Hope you can hold out until it’s finally eradicated. Many preachers and spokesmen against the vax are dying with Covid. You said once you were cautious in public. That’s good

I said this

[GoldenPineTree]

Originally Posted by Leo58

So 67% of deaths unvaccinated
And 33% of deaths vaccinated

But 60% of South Carolinians have been vaccinated and 40% unvaccinated

So 33% / 60% = 0.55 for vaccinated
And 67% / 40% = 1.68 for unvaccinated

So you are about 3 times more likely to die if you are unvaccinated, in South Carolina. A bit less than the 10 fold difference seen overall in the US.

3-5 times is what’s seen across the USA. The garbage the CDC puts out is calculated incorrectly on purpose

[JohnAlt]

Originally Posted by Fisherman99

Absolutely true...UNVACCINATED 20 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE per this 11/13/21 Texas study! Most of us will minimize that risk but feel free to have a death wish if you must!

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavi...9/2815409/?amp

Some gotta do their own research.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by GoldenPineTree

Billions of doses of pfizer were given?

And you missed this, some cliff notes for you:



How many doses of pfizer were given up to Feb 28?

March 11th, 81 million vaccines had been given to Americans from the Big 3 , a little more than a 3rd of that was Pfizer . This OP's report also includes international numbers, so that indeed was over 100 million pfizer shots total.

[newtovenice]

Originally Posted by GoldenPineTree

That's how it's supposed to work. But being Pfizer, we don't know how well informed the people were.

Have you heard of Maddie de Garay? https://wsau.com/2021/10/27/healthy-...he-covid-shot/

She was in a Pfizer clinical trial for kids 12-17 to get the vaccine. She was given an app to report her symptoms.

The app had pre-form options of things like "sore arm", "headache" and "fatigue" with an "other" option.

Maddie's symptoms began as GI problems, and eventually progressed to paralysis. Her mother reported all of these in app, starting with her GI problems.

Later when the results of the study were published in the NEJM, Maddie's symptoms were listed as GI only, no mention of the more severe paralysis. The mother tried contacting both Pfizer, the researcher, and NEJM but never heard back.

Pfizer also cutoff her app. She could not report anything.

And she was not the only trial participant this happened to.

The fact that people keep dismissing the mountains and mountains of evidence that data collection on the vaccine was ... sloppy ... is insane.

[clutchcargo777]

Originally Posted by Leo58

BTW, this is from Pfizer’s own monitoring system, not VAERS.

Again, the company asks people to report ALL adverse events in patients taking the vaccine. The person making the report is not expected to make a judgment whether the event was caused by the vaccine or not. So yes, if someone dies in a bike accident, that should be reported.

In a clinical trial, there typically is a placebo group. The number of adverse events in the drug group is compared to placebo to see if the drug is safe.

But with this type of real-world, post-marketing monitoring, there is no control group. If a particular effect is being seen at a greater rate than would be expected in the general population, that might raise a red flag that leads to investigation and possible recall of the drug.

And, as we've learned, it might not.

[hotkarl]

Maybe it’s been discussed already and I missed it but…
I’ve seen a few articles recently talking about vaccines and the sudden spike in athletes dropping on the field(and off the field too), supposed “otherwise healthy” athletes having heart issues and such with no history of problems. I kinda just skimmed thru the articles in passing.
Maybe someone here can chime in with clarification/more info.