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Maybe you could adopt the kid and room him up with your own after the parents are charged with murder and put away. He'll be needing a good home, compassion, and understanding. Just make sure any object that could be used to kill the rest of your family is safely locked away. Or you could be charged with the next murder.
No need to adopt this kid.....he will have a cell to live in for a very long time. Maybe you should have as much compassion for the parents who are going to bury their child.
Last edited by Charlie&Rose; 12-04-2021 at 01:11 PM..
As I have asked others and never really gotten a reply, if the kid had borrowed the parents car and used that to kill people, should they be responsible? Or are they only responsible because a firearm was used?
The kid is 15! Of course, if the parents bought him a car,just like the gun, they are held responsible. Also, he didn`t borrow the gun, the parents gave it to him as a gift.
He's an accountant and she works in real estate. Hardly rural jobs and not really blue collar either. Sounds like lower end white collar jobs to me, they aren't rednecks, lol.
He lost his job in July, was not an accountant, she's been let go by the real estate broker, have no idea if she was successful or not. Anyone who gets a real estate license can hang it on a broker's wall, doesn't mean they are successful.
But being a redneck is not about having a job, it's about not having common sense, having low IQ, writing stupid texts to your son as he's blasting away at his classmates, running from the police, lying to LE and your lawyer, writing bad checks (she wrote two and got fined both times), getting DUI's, the father has one in his history, failing to pay child support to his first son until the state stepped in and garnished his wages, what else do you need to know? REDNECKS, all the way. NO class, and no common sense.
The kid is 15! Of course, if the parents bought him a car,just like the gun, they are held responsible. Also, he didn`t borrow the gun, the parents gave it to him as a gift.
Gun gifting amongst family ( counsins, uncles, aunts, grandparents, nephews, daughters, wife, husband,sons) is not illegal.
Nor does it need registered in most cases. SO long as neither party are convicted felons.
I think these parents will get a 30 day public service task and a "we will never do that again judge,we promise, cross our hearts"
I think the parents were negligent on the healthcare/mental health of their offspring. Rather flippant with the school .....
The school took some ACTION, which is more then I can say for the parents. The school confided in the parents. I would have had a sheriff personnel there when talking to the parents just to give it a level of seriousness.
First, I’m Center-Right and all about the equal enforcement of the law.
I don’t have any real issues with the two parents being arrested and charged as accessories to a crime, but if this is setting a new standard of criminal culpability, it needs better be equally used against parents of all Colors, economical/social standings and political leanings. Currently, their is a double standard of politics within the criminal justice system, which causes me concern that the law isn’t really equally applied in most cases these days.
Yes, the parents were arrested for the possible violations, yes, possible violations since they haven’t been convicted yet, to Michigan State law, but can and will most likely set precedent in other State’s laws. So, this can have a far reaching OUTSIDE of Michigan and lately, I’m seeing a pattern of an unequal application of law and punishment within our legal system. Point and case the treatment of the January 6 rioters verses the Summer of Love 2020 rioters. In both instances, both are without ANY QUESTION wrong and are criminal acts, but one group, individuals on the Left were generally given a free pass, while the group on the Right, were hammered extremely hard and IMHO, viciously in Federal court, with even some having their basic rights violated… Many were charged with property damage and criminal trespassing, both misdemeanor offenses, by are being held without bail for close to a year.
Personally, if this turns out to be a new standard, so be it, but it better be used equally since this alone can further erode faith in our legal system. So, if the two parents are punished in Michigan for their misdeed(s) of buying an AR15 for their White 15 y/o son, who by all accounts, sounds like a troubled nut THAN the parent(s) of a Black/Brown gang member, who is openly flagging gang colors and associations, who kills or wounds people in a criminal act should be held accountable just as much as the White parents in this case.
Being mixed Black and White, I don’t believe for ONE second in White Privilege since it’s a falsehood. I do believe in Rich Privilege or Well Connected Privilege. My mother, a White woman, NEVER benefited from this mythical White Privilege thing… Not once in her life, so I don’t want that to be used as an excuse of enforcing a Two-Tier justice system, which unfairly treats Conservative Whites far different than Liberal people of Color.
If this is used in both a just and fair manner, it may solve a large percentage of violent youth crimes…. If enforced equally and blindly.
First, I’m Center-Right and all about the equal enforcement of the law.
I don’t have any real issues with the two parents being arrested and charged as accessories to a crime, but if this is setting a new standard of criminal culpability, it needs better be equally used against parents of all Colors, economical/social standings and political leanings. Currently, their is a double standard of politics within the criminal justice system, which causes me concern that the law isn’t really equally applied in most cases these days.
Yes, the parents were arrested for the possible violations, yes, possible violations since they haven’t been convicted yet, to Michigan State law, but can and will most likely set precedent in other State’s laws. So, this can have a far reaching OUTSIDE of Michigan and lately, I’m seeing a pattern of an unequal application of law and punishment within our legal system. Point and case the treatment of the January 6 rioters verses the Summer of Love 2020 rioters. In both instances, both are without ANY QUESTION wrong and are criminal acts, but one group, individuals on the Left were generally given a free pass, while the group on the Right, were hammered extremely hard and IMHO, viciously in Federal court, with even some having their basic rights violated… Many were charged with property damage and criminal trespassing, both misdemeanor offenses, by are being held without bail for close to a year.
Personally, if this turns out to be a new standard, so be it, but it better be used equally since this alone can further erode faith in our legal system. So, if the two parents are punished in Michigan for their misdeed(s) of buying an AR15 for their White 15 y/o son, who by all accounts, sounds like a troubled nut THAN the parent(s) of a Black/Brown gang member, who is openly flagging gang colors and associations, who kills or wounds people in a criminal act should be held accountable just as much as the White parents in this case.
Being mixed Black and White, I don’t believe for ONE second in White Privilege since it’s a falsehood. I do believe in Rich Privilege or Well Connected Privilege. My mother, a White woman, NEVER benefited from this mythical White Privilege thing… Not once in her life, so I don’t want that to be used as an excuse of enforcing a Two-Tier justice system, which unfairly treats Conservative Whites far different than Liberal people of Color.
If this is used in both a just and fair manner, it may solve a large percentage of violent youth crimes…. If enforced equally and blindly.
Outstanding post.
If this does set a precedent that becomes widely applied, I wonder if foster and group homes will fill up with 'troubled' kids who the parents no longer want at home, versus the parents stepping up and giving/getting them the care that they need.
The teen who is responsible for the shooting was showing clear signs of needing intervention immediately for his mental health.
I haven't read a lot of this story. Did the school contact the school counselor or psychologist to get involved? If not, that needs to be looked at as well. If a student is showing serious mental health problems obviously the parents were responsible for getting him help, but the school should have had a counselor or psychologist available to sit down and talk to him.
This teen was troubled and his drawing was disturbing.
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