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CRT is a decades old academic concept. The core idea is that race is a social construct, and that racism is not just a product of individual bias/prejudice, but can be something embedded in legal systems and policies. Why would anyone not want that to be something we explore from an academic perspective?
90% of people who are anti-CRT have no clue what it is beyond misinformation fed by certain media outlets.
A concept should be disclosed as conceptual and not portrayed as fact
But also, If the system and policies are racist, then why do we cheer on the same old white politicians that have been part of the system for decades and parade them around like they are some sort of innovative reformers?
Pro-CRTers saying the anti-CRTers dont want to teach History.
Anti-CRTers saying to the Pro-CRTers , it's How you are teaching it.
Can we get specific? at least as a starting point?
Can we list a few or even one example Lesson under CRT and then we can examine that to debate if is "good" or "bad"?
Sample lesson from my neighbor's middle school son. Happened about 2 weeks ago.
Teacher was explaining that certain minorities should be perceived as friendly because they often behave as angry loners and might be viewed as bullies. Teacher used a specific minority [insert race] to prove this point.
Neighbor's son spoke up and said this about a friend who attends the school: [Matt] is [insert race] and he's not a bully.
Teacher gave him detention because saying [insert race] is racist.
Neighbor and the [insert race] kid's father who is also [insert race] called the principal as they were both p-ssed beyond belief.
Neighbor's son now has an extra PE class and has been excused from "social emotional learning" ... otherwise known as CRT.
There were other lessons at the elementary level that would show pictures of white kids and black kids and the students would have to assign provided statements to them like "who goes to bed hungry" or "who would be accused of shoplifting."
People who beat the drum of "this is not happening" are morons. All they have to do is talk to parents of kids in public school.
Sample lesson from my neighbor's middle school son. Happened about 2 weeks ago.
Teacher was explaining that certain minorities should be perceived as friendly because they often behave as angry loners and might be viewed as bullies. Teacher used a specific minority [insert race] to prove this point.
Neighbor's son spoke up and said this about a friend who attends the school: [Matt] is [insert race] and he's not a bully.
Teacher gave him detention because saying [insert race] is racist.
Neighbor and the [insert race] kid's father who is also [insert race] called the principal as they were both p-ssed beyond belief.
Neighbor's son now has an extra PE class and has been excused from "social emotional learning" ... otherwise known as CRT.
There were other lessons at the elementary level that would show pictures of white kids and black kids and the students would have to assign provided statements to them like "who goes to bed hungry" or "who would be accused of shoplifting."
People who beat the drum of "this is not happening" are morons. All they have to do is talk to parents of kids in public school.
Thank you for sharing that.
So pro-CRTers,..is this CRT? I didn't detect anything resembling 'History" in this one.
Let's get a Pro-CRTers' example lesson to compare.
CRT is a decades old academic concept. The core idea is that race is a social construct, and that racism is not just a product of individual bias/prejudice, but can be something embedded in legal systems and policies. Why would anyone not want that to be something we explore from an academic perspective?
90% of people who are anti-CRT have no clue what it is beyond misinformation fed by certain media outlets.
Guess what happens when you tell children from almost the day they were born that there's an evil entity who is out to get them and permeates every aspect of their existence? Answer: They have a ready made excuse for underachieving and have a chip on their shoulder. Great idea.
People who are pro-CRT have no clue as to the damage they've done to generations of young Blacks. The KKK couldn't come up with a better way to marginalize Blacks if they tried.
Sure, and let's start that education with the Grutter v Bollinger decision by the Supreme Court. You know, where the Court upheld institutional racial discrimination, which violates the both the Civil Rights Act and the 14th Amendment's equal protection under the law clause, so long as the government has some compelling interest for that racial discrimination.
By all means, start there, given that CRT is taught to high schoolers on their way to college. Teach how the government of the US in 2021 is indeed a racist construct, and uses the written law to discriminate against whites and Asians SOLELY based on their race, does so all the freaking time, and in total violation of the Civil Rights Act and the 14th Amendment (mentioned again to be both redundant and to pound that into everyone's brains).
Then teach the inescapable conclusion that the government not only perpetuates racism whenever it feels like it, but also that based on the government and equity theories of the modern day, there is no better cure for racism than more racism, given countless examples of government sponsored racial discrimination, segregation, population controls, etc.
If you're gonna go that route, why just teach "whites are bad, m'kay?" version of CRT. No no, go all the way and give the modern day updates on how the government is manifestly oppressing whites and Asians in both written law and unwritten rules of persecution and prosecution, and doing so because they say it serves a compelling government interest. Start with Grutter v Bollinger, then go back to earlier cases from the 60s and 70s that essentially let the government to do anything they want so long as they can be the only entity who defines racism, discrimination, equity and oh yeah, their compelling interests.
A question for the pro-crt people. Whats with the separating kids by race in the classroom? What is the useful purpose of this practice?
I'd think it would be a red flag. Something that should at least cause suspicion of what these people are really up to. It certainly goes beyond merely teaching the bad parts of history.
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