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Old 03-21-2022, 08:42 AM
 
Location: USA
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Based on the new rules issued by USA Swimming, which are much stricter then the current NCAA generic policy, it will be nearly impossible for a trans female to qualify to compete against women.

Most likely they will be given two choices;
Participate under the women's umbrella without competing against the women, or compete against the men.

As for the latter, todays young athletes (all sports) are pretty empathetic and supportive of the trans community, and the men would have very little problem with a team-mate whom identifies as trans on their team as long as they can play. For the few that would, they deal with it or get out of sports.
Why are you so insistent that men should play on women's sports teams? Do you dislike women? Want to erase them?

Please, no diversity/inclusiveness/empathy vocabulary. Just a straight answer.

 
Old 03-21-2022, 08:43 AM
 
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The door was opened to one exception, so now ALL exceptions must be allowed.

Logic has three, and only three, valid numbers - 0, 1 and Many.

The instant we went past 1 definition of female, we landed at Many, which is to say Infinite.

They are trying to rebottle the genie with X times since hormone therapy, Y time of Z level of testosterone, etc. Just quibbles over how much of Many/Infinite they allow in an attempt to reclaim reason from insanity.

The lid to Pandora's box has been yanked right off, and here there be demons.

Only natural born women can fight this fight and win it. IMHO, their most valuable weapon is publicity, so whenever these menfolk in drag decide to "declare female" for sports, every actual female in the competition should simply boycott. This Thomas fellow playing dress up should have been in that pool all by his lonesome, thus being the guaranteed winner. His biology already gets him 90% of the way there, so the actual females he is gaming the system to cheat out of their athletic accomplishments should walk away and give him the remaining 10% and make his "victory" a sure thing.

And every single time another man-lady does this nonsense, every woman that man-lady is supposed to compete against should forfeit/boycott. It should be the new rallying cry of biological female unity to reclaim their athletics from man-ladies who are gaming a system and robbing women of something they built on actual girl power.
 
Old 03-21-2022, 08:47 AM
 
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The door was opened to one exception, so now ALL exceptions must be allowed.

Logic has three, and only three, valid numbers - 0, 1 and Many.

The instant we went past 1 definition of female, we landed at Many, which is to say Infinite.

They are trying to rebottle the genie with X times since hormone therapy, Y time of Z level of testosterone, etc. Just quibbles over how much of Many/Infinite they allow in an attempt to reclaim reason from insanity.

The lid to Pandora's box has been yanked right off, and here there be demons.

Only natural born women can fight this fight and win it. IMHO, their most valuable weapon is publicity, so whenever these menfolk in drag decide to "declare female" for sports, every actual female in the competition should simply boycott. This Thomas fellow playing dress up should have been in that pool all by his lonesome, thus being the guaranteed winner. His biology already gets him 90% of the way there, so the actual females he is gaming the system to cheat out of their athletic accomplishments should walk away and give him the remaining 10% and make his "victory" a sure thing.

And every single time another man-lady does this nonsense, every woman that man-lady is supposed to compete against should forfeit/boycott. It should be the new rallying cry of biological female unity to reclaim their athletics from man-ladies who are gaming a system and robbing women of something they built on actual girl power.
Every single time they get in that pool they legitimize his presence there. They are telling everyone that they believe he has a right to be there as a teammate and competitor.
 
Old 03-21-2022, 08:54 AM
 
Location: NYC
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IMHO, their most valuable weapon is publicity, so whenever these menfolk in drag decide to "declare female" for sports, every actual female in the competition should simply boycott.

Pretty much this. Besides boycott, they turn to the tool used to kickstart this whole thing to begin with. It's the current battleground of public opinion.


Fans hail Olympic medalist Emma Weyant ‘real winner’ after loss to trans swimmer Lia Thomas


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Old 03-21-2022, 08:56 AM
 
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I agree, but other women who are feminists activist should be speaking up for them but are strangely silent. I take that back one is, I wish I remember her name, but so far she is the only one.
An athlete from Virginia Tech complained about it, but it was not covered much. She is likely going to be punished for it.
 
Old 03-21-2022, 09:01 AM
 
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Every single time they get in that pool they legitimize his presence there. They are telling everyone that they believe he has a right to be there as a teammate and competitor.
Exactly.

Women, and only women, can stop this nonsense by ceasing to validate it with their participation.

If Lia Thomas got up on the start platform and found himself all alone, what do the cameras and the commentators say? When man-lady cyclist takes to the velodrome, and is there all alone, same thing?

Female athletes need to make a stand. And they have a very, very powerful chip to play - Title IX. Tell your big university that all those women's athletics scholarships are what allow you to have football and basketball programs that make it rain. Do we really want to f**k with that natural balance that is so financially lucrative? Now you are given those Title IX scholarships to biological men? Really?
 
Old 03-21-2022, 09:06 AM
 
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Exactly.

Women, and only women, can stop this nonsense by ceasing to validate it with their participation.

If Lia Thomas got up on the start platform and found himself all alone, what do the cameras and the commentators say? When man-lady cyclist takes to the velodrome, and is there all alone, same thing?

Female athletes need to make a stand. And they have a very, very powerful chip to play - Title IX. Tell your big university that all those women's athletics scholarships are what allow you to have football and basketball programs that make it rain. Do we really want to f**k with that natural balance that is so financially lucrative? Now you are given those Title IX scholarships to biological men? Really?
For all this feministic bullchot about how empowered women are this is the weakest group of women I have ever seen.

Had this happened in the 80s or 90s? This man would have had his azz handed to him by female athletes. As in they probably would've physically tossed him from the locker room. They would've stood together and NOT competed. It would've been over in a month, and the females would've gone back to swimming.

But today's female has been raised in an incredibly dysfunctional society. They are weak. They do not realize the power they could've had to stop all this. They are idiots. And it's terribly, terribly sad.

You would have thought they would have figured it out by now. Nope. Weak.

And they will have to live with that.
 
Old 03-21-2022, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Biological men destroying biological women in all women's sports is such a great thing for the women's empowerment movement.

You get what you vote for and deserve every bit of it. You made the choice. Enjoy!
Very true. Well stated.
 
Old 03-21-2022, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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Why are you so insistent that men should play on women's sports teams? Do you dislike women? Want to erase them?

Please, no diversity/inclusiveness/empathy vocabulary. Just a straight answer.
I never claimed to be "insistent" on anything, other then finding the best way for trans athletes to be included in sports. As one who has been part of the industry for over 40 years, I may of defended some of the policies put forth by the industry as did many others. The issue never really became problematic until recently.

So let me ask you. How is the best way for trans athletes to participate in sports, or are you of the mind that they should not?

Will state that anyone who is not supportive towards others based on race, religion, sexual orientation, gender or gender identity, really should question themselves, do they really belong in sports? There may be some like that but thankfully most are not.
 
Old 03-21-2022, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Biological men destroying biological women in all women's sports is such a great thing for the women's empowerment movement.

You get what you vote for and deserve every bit of it. You made the choice. Enjoy!
Where's Jane Fonda and all the other libbers when we really need them?

If he's swinging a c*** he's a GUY, he's not a woman, trans or whatever the insane choose to call him today. Insane, insane, insane.
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