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Old 12-07-2021, 03:50 PM
 
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It wasn't too long ago that Alaska had the highest Covid rate in the nation. Population density is taken into account to determine percentages/numbers.


https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2021...orts-6-deaths/
They find whatever excuse they can to explain why their beloved vaccines don't work in the real world.

For a while, Vermont had the highest cases pp, and one of the most (if not the most) vaccinated states, with a low population density.
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Old 12-07-2021, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Here we go again with a whack-a-mole post! A couple months ago Montana was putting covid patients in the hallways and Alaska had a staggering increase in case and had exhausted their ICU space under a wave of serious infections. Now that wave has abated as they always do as people begin avoiding exposure through masking and distancing (Farr's Law). As that one subsides another regains strength somewhere else. It has nothing to do with anything other than covid is a long way from defeated and it will keep coming back wave after wave, over here, now over there until everyone is either vaccinated, recovered, or dead.
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Old 12-07-2021, 03:57 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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They find whatever excuse they can to explain why their beloved vaccines don't work in the real world.

For a while, Vermont had the highest cases pp, and one of the most (if not the most) vaccinated states, with a low population density.
Yeh, NYers fled to Vermont. Vaccines are not "beloved" anyway. They help and are part of the toolbox for preventing covid. There are other components to the toolbox like decent masks, social distancing, getting a booster shot.
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Old 12-07-2021, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Given the politics it wouldn't surprise me if the highest vax rates correlated to the highest death rates, because urban areas see more need to vax due to the higher death rates.


On average it seems like death rates are flat across vaccination rates. Maybe that's not surprising, if people have a tendency to prioritize vaccination more if there are more deaths, and thus populations would tend toward choosing a vaccination rate that leads to a mean death rate.


Those sorts of issues are why we judge vaccine efficacy with scientifically controlled trials, not by eyeballing CovidACTNOW.

Yeah we're gonna go with actual suicide (by COVID).
Mississippi and Alabama are 1 and 2 in death rate, they are also the 3rd and 4th least vaccinated states (1% higher than the two lowest)
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Old 12-07-2021, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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They find whatever excuse they can to explain why their beloved vaccines don't work in the real world.

For a while, Vermont had the highest cases pp, and one of the most (if not the most) vaccinated states, with a low population density.
Vermont has the lowest death rate
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Old 12-07-2021, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Vermont has the lowest death rate
And it is the death rate that really matters. People who get sick and recover will be fine. Long COVID symptoms are concerning, though.
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Old 12-07-2021, 04:17 PM
 
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Vermont has the lowest death rate
Vermont has had the lowest death rate before the vaccines, and after. But at their more recent wave (Sep/Oct 2021) they had more deaths than their wave in Dec/Jan (2020/21).
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Old 12-07-2021, 04:17 PM
 
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Mississippi and Alabama are 1 and 2 in death rate, they are also the 3rd and 4th least vaccinated states (1% higher than the two lowest)
What would be more interesting is a general regression model with county data on deaths, density, vaccination, masking, partisanship, income inequality and any other factors that might impact COVID, and then see what factors appear most significant. But I don't have that kind of time.
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Old 12-07-2021, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Rhode Island and Connecticut are some of the most masked up and vaccinated states in the country, why are the COVID-19 transmission rates so high compared to the lowest transmission rate states of Montana and Alaska.

The county with the highest vaccination rate in California which is Marin County has transmission rate of 1.31


Rhode Island COVID rate is 81 per 100,000 and it is 84% vaccinated with transmission of 1.27
Montana COVID rate is 29 per 100,000 with 60% vaccinated and tramission rate of 0.81

https://covidactnow.org/?s=26491553

https://covidactnow.org/us/california-ca/?s=26491553
Marin County, CA:

https://coronavirus.marinhhs.org/vaccine/data

Over the last 90 days:

Unvaccinated 13 times more likely to be infected and 35 times more likely to be hospitalized.

Since 1 Jan unvaccinated 19 times more likely to die.
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Old 12-07-2021, 04:27 PM
 
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I hear rates are really low on Mars.
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