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Old 12-15-2021, 12:48 PM
 
Location: USA
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You guys have been taxing the 99% to give tax breaks to the 1% for the last 40 years. Who is taking who's stuff? You are reverse Robin Hoods. You steal from the poor and middle class to give to the rich, under the guise that it will trickle back down in greater amount. Which of course it doesn't. Even a five year old could tell you that if you give money to one group, it will just make that one group richer. Which is predictably exactly what has happned.
Heretic! Ye shall be burned at the stake!
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Old 12-15-2021, 03:43 PM
 
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isn ha wha corporations and politicans do now through taxes regular person pay taxes why corporations getting tax breaks and more money then they pay into taxes and lets not even talk about politicans. and nobody would take anybodies money by force it would be jus they pay what they need like nobody is taking my money by force when govt collect taxes
Corporations don't pay taxes. Taxes and other costs of production are passed on to the customers, or they lower wages, or they reduce their workforce.

The sole purpose of our government is to protect our rights to Life, Liberty and , Private Property. Taxes collected for any other purpose is theft.
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Old 12-15-2021, 03:50 PM
 
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You guys have been taxing the 99% to give tax breaks to the 1% for the last 40 years. Who is taking who's stuff? You are reverse Robin Hoods. You steal from the poor and middle class to give to the rich, under the guise that it will trickle back down in greater amount. Which of course it doesn't. Even a five year old could tell you that if you give money to one group, it will just make that one group richer. Which is predictably exactly what has happned.
That's not how our government was designed to work. Read the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence. We had an amazing government at one time - it was the envy of the world - but it's been bastardized over time

Socialism uses the threat of violence against peaceful people in order to take their stuff and give it to others who didn't earn it.

Are you OK with that
?
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Old 12-15-2021, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Bla, bla, bla. Conservatives blame liberals, liberals blame conservatives. Doesn't matter, the ship is sinking.

But if you really want to know the cause, it's conservative's trickle-down economics. In 40 years not one single drop has trickled down. It's only been sucked up to the top. It was a complete scam by Ronald Reagan to make him and his rich friends richer, and boy did it work. He completely destroyed the middle class to do it. And even now you conservatives are still so brainwashed by Reagan, that you still can't see that you've been scammed.

But that's okay. My dream is to see socialism take root in this country. And every day you conservatives keep giving money to the 1%, is one day closer to my dream coming true. Keep up the good work.
actually the trickle down economics of the right is 1000% better than the trickle up welfare of the left




socialism will put the 99% (that's everyone except the liberal elite rich masters) ALL in the poor house




but that is what the left wants...two classes...the rich liberal élite masters, and the poor serf slaves who survive of the crumbs of welfare for votes
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Old 12-15-2021, 05:45 PM
 
Location: USA
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That's not how our government was designed to work. Read the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence. We had an amazing government at one time - it was the envy of the world - but it's been bastardized over time

Socialism uses the threat of violence against peaceful people in order to take their stuff and give it to others who didn't earn it.

Are you OK with that
?
That’s not really true. Socialism is a (proposed) form of government where all of the major industries are owned by the government for the (supposed) benefit of the public at large, rather than for the benefit of private investors.

Most countries have “socialized” some aspects of their economies, especially sectors of the economy that are “natural monopolies” i.e. they work most efficiently as monopolies. Think railroads, telecommunications, electricity distribution, road networks, etc.
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Old 12-15-2021, 05:47 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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That’s not really true. Socialism is a (proposed) form of government where all of the major industries are owned by the government for the (supposed) benefit of the public at large, rather than for the benefit of private investors.

Most countries have “socialized” some aspects of their economies, especially sectors of the economy that are “natural monopolies” i.e. they work most efficiently as monopolies. Think railroads, telecommunications, electricity distribution, road networks, etc.
Well..Amtrak is a mess, health insurance is a mess, the post office is a mess.

And you want the government to own it all ??
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Old 12-15-2021, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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That’s not really true. Socialism is a (proposed) form of government where all of the major industries are owned by the government for the (supposed) benefit of the public at large, rather than for the benefit of private investors.

Most countries have “socialized” some aspects of their economies, especially sectors of the economy that are “natural monopolies” i.e. they work most efficiently as monopolies. Think railroads, telecommunications, electricity distribution, road networks, etc.
actually Socialism is where the government owns ALL means of production....to include the people since the people (workers) are the actual means of production




aka....slavery
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Old 12-15-2021, 06:27 PM
 
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Well..Amtrak is a mess, health insurance is a mess, the post office is a mess.

And you want the government to own it all ??
Exactly. Also, if you want to know the difference between privatized vs. government, just go through security at any airport besides SFO (TSA), then go through security at SFO (private contractor).
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Old 12-15-2021, 06:33 PM
 
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Exactly. Also, if you want to know the difference between privatized vs. government, just go through security at any airport besides SFO (TSA), then go through security at SFO (private contractor).
lol well when you go to apply for govt job and you know that you will never get fired no matter what is the problem when you elect officals who are bartenders and that bold black one and basicly all of them govt controled anything does not work OFF COURSE but if you would elect competent people and nott easy bribed ones govt can run business and make profit. and this american govt is basicly top 1% socialisam every year there is some kind of govt charities to them

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Old 12-15-2021, 06:47 PM
 
Location: USA
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Well..Amtrak is a mess, health insurance is a mess, the post office is a mess.

And you want the government to own it all ??
Amtrak works pretty well along the Northeast Corridor where it has its own right of way and the distance between cities is small. Elsewhere, it’s not very good. I’d be in favor of shutting down Amtrak in most places outside the NEC. Outside the NEC, the USA is too big and spread out for passenger rail to work well.

Health insurance in the USA is mostly privatized, no? What am I missing?

I’ve never had a problem with the post office. Are they known for having poor service?

You didn’t mention the Interstate Highway System. That seems to work pretty well.

Public (state) universities work pretty well. Who knew that every college football game was an orgy of Marxist-Leninism?

The military works pretty well, at least when it isn’t asked to do things like nation-building.
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