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Old 12-11-2021, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Trump's policy was to give Putin and the Russkies anything they wanted. But hey! He kept us out of war.
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I know what you are saying. Biden unlike our previous president is trying to prevent Russian aggression and expansion of influence.
Sleepy Joe is weak and everyone knows it. The “Russkies” will do anything they want because they know he’ll do nothing about it.
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Old 12-11-2021, 03:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I know what you are saying. Biden unlike our previous president is trying to prevent Russian aggression and expansion of influence.
Biden unlike our previous president is failing to prevent Russian aggression and expansion of influence.

Fixed it for you.
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Old 12-12-2021, 07:49 AM
 
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OP:If Donald Trump had been re-elected by the EC in 2020, would Putin have 100,000 Russian troops on Ukraine's border now?
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Sleepy Joe is weak and everyone knows it. The “Russkies” will do anything they want because they know he’ll do nothing about it.
Actually, Putin was encouraged by our disgraced former president, Donald Trump, not by President Joe Biden. Just look at the facts. Trump has been sympathetic to Putin in public statements for nearly a decade. As for Ukraine, Trump was so reckless regarding its security that he conditioned U.S. military aid on political favors in his shocking 2019 phone call that resulted in his first impeachment.

Trump’s supporters seem ready to forgive him anything, including his cheerleading for dictators. Not so much the rest of America.
If Putin does invade Ukraine, one consequence should be absolute destruction of any Trump political future, IMO. Here is just an incomplete list of his reprehensible backing & embarrassing fawning and anti-democracy admiration toward Putin:

*In March 2014, he tweeted: “I believe Putin will continue to re-build the Russian Empire, and that is not a bad thing.”

*In August 2015, he told Fox News: “Frankly, I’d get along great with him.”

*In April 2016, he enthused: “We’re going to have a great relationship with Putin and Russia.”

*Trump encouraged Russia’s meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. (“Russia, if you’re listening …”)

*Even after the U.S. intelligence community presented him with hard intelligence about Russia’s sabotage in January 2017, Trump publicly minimized it.

*At the Helsinki summit in 2018, Trump actually took Putin’s side on the election-meddling issue — over that of his intelligence advisers. (“I have President Putin; he just said it’s not Russia. I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be.”) Daniel Coats, then director of national intelligence, rebuffed Trump.

*Trump’s response to Putin’s defiance of norms has been to normalize Russian behavior, and it has caught on with his followers, defenders and boosters. When Bill O’Reilly called Putin a killer during a February 2017 interview, Trump responded, “There are a lot of killers. … Do you think our country is so innocent?”

Trump took Russia's side and mocked the USA more than once. Trump did Putin’s work of destabilization for him. Russia for decades has dreamed of increasing polarization in the United States and weakening our democracy. That turned out to be Trump’s approach to governing — to the point of trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election result. Now, as Putin is thinking about a move into Ukraine, he sees an America terribly weakened by political division bordering on dysfunction. He sees a moment of opportunity...thanks to the know-nothing, wannabe autocrat named Donald Trump.

You Trump supporters blame Biden for making Putin think he can get away with recklessness and defiance and his Ukraine threats. You are wrong. American loving citizens and the world comprehend the facts.

And, in this Ukraine crisis, Biden has mobilized a coalition to punish Putin with severe economic sanctions if he crosses the line, while also looking for a diplomatic solution. Joe Biden has behaved with the right mix of firmness and diplomacy. Watch and learn as a real president solves yet another crisis caused by the former guy's ineptness, self absorption and authoritarian disposition.

Last edited by corpgypsy; 12-12-2021 at 08:11 AM.. Reason: punctuation correction & clarity
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Old 12-12-2021, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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So much because Trump angst even going back to 2014.

Not a thing wrong with having a good relationship with Putin and Russia, however, because Trump isn’t so weak that Putin would pull anything like what we’re seeing. Sleepy Joe, however, will do nothing, as he and everyone knows how weak he is.

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Old 12-12-2021, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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So much because Trump angst even going back to 2014.

Not a thing wrong with having a good relationship with Putin and Russia, however, because Trump isn’t so weak that Putin would pull anything like what we’re seeing. Sleepy Joe, however, will do nothing, as he and everyone knows how weak he is.
There isn't, but the problem is we are befriending a bear who we know can maul us. Trump acted like it was a cute little grizzly cub.
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Old 12-12-2021, 01:49 PM
 
Location: USA
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What Russia does is none of our business. It’s not our job to be World Police.

OP, are you volunteering to join the military to help defend Ukraine?
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Old 12-12-2021, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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There isn't, but the problem is we are befriending a bear who we know can maul us. Trump acted like it was a cute little grizzly cub.
Lol. You think they can maul us because Trump. Sleepy Joe is simply too weak to do anything about it and countries know it.
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Old 12-12-2021, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Lol. You think they can maul us because Trump. Sleepy Joe is simply too weak to do anything about it and countries know it.
Well yes. Trump let the bear grow in ways that Obama didn't. I don't understand the right's current infatuation with Vlady that started in the early 2010's.
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Old 12-12-2021, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Well yes. Trump let the bear grow in ways that Obama didn't. I don't understand the right's current infatuation with Vlady that started in the early 2010's.
LMAO. So much because Trump deflection. Russia isn’t going to “maul” us and Sleepy Joe is weak and everyone knows it.
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Old 12-12-2021, 02:01 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Well yes. Trump let the bear grow in ways that Obama didn't. I don't understand the right's current infatuation with Vlady that started in the early 2010's.
Because Putin is an authoritarian right winger and claims to represent "Christain values". He's made to order for the American Christian right.
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