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Old 12-09-2021, 05:01 PM
 
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I'm not only referring to healthcare in Canada.
Take care of your own country. Yours is much more authoritarian and tyrannical than America.
They need your help, we don't.
You might want to look at any freedom index you want, and USA is always well down the list. Oh, and all those indexes are right-wing think tanks that develop them.

You might want to recalibrate your thinking of what is free.
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Old 12-09-2021, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Live in Illinois? Got Covid? Dont have the required 3,4,5,6…shots? NO HEALTH INSURANCE FOR YOU!

https://chicago.suntimes.com/politic...erson-illinois
in reality his legislation will create an out for insurance co’s to refuse payment for Covid treatments, while necessarily increasing health related bankruptcies.
What about people who cannot get the vaccine or any other because they have some medical problem?
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Old 12-09-2021, 05:33 PM
 
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10 yrs ago Pfizer's animal health division developed a vaccine for horses using mrna technology. they touted how effective it was, cheaper to make, faster to produce. After a year they took it off the mkt and went back to producing the vaccine the old fashioned way using killed virus. Pfizer refused to say why.
That questionable vaccine became the basis for this covid vaccine. If mrna technology wasnt good enough for horses with the company refusing to say why, guess what , I dont want it anywhere near me.
Billions of people have now taken mRNA vaccine. That's a huge sample size. They are doing fine.
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Old 12-10-2021, 05:35 AM
 
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not true- see my reply to normsted. it was used in animals and it failed.

I was referring to use in humans.
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Old 12-10-2021, 05:40 AM
 
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Failed? It's been used against rabies successfully for 11 years

Rabies vaccines are of the inactivated/attenuated virus type. Same tech used for traditional vaccines for like... ever.


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The human diploid cell rabies vaccine (H.D.C.V.) was started in 1967. Human diploid cell rabies vaccines are inactivated vaccines made using the attenuated Pitman-Moore L503 strain of the virus.[14]
In addition to these developments, newer and less expensive purified chicken embryo cell vaccines (CCEEV) and purified Vero cell rabies vaccines are now available and are recommended for use by the WHO.[6] The purified Vero cell rabies vaccine uses the attenuated Wistar strain of the rabies virus, and uses the Vero cell line as its host. CCEEVs can be used in both pre- and post-exposure vaccinations. CCEEVs use inactivated rabies virus grown from either embryonated eggs or in cell cultures and are safe for use in humans and animals.[6][15]
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Old 12-10-2021, 05:43 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Have these Dems talked about "camps" yet ?
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Old 12-10-2021, 05:43 AM
 
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Billions of people have now taken mRNA vaccine. That's a huge sample size. They are doing fine.

So you are admitting we are using the general public for the largest trial of an unproven technology in the history of the planet then. And you realize 1 year would be the shortest amount if time ever used to determine something is safe, right? Lot's of 1sts for this stuff.
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Old 12-10-2021, 05:44 AM
 
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Billions of people have now taken mRNA vaccine. That's a huge sample size. They are doing fine.
No they're not "doing fine". You just aren't paying enough attention beyond what MSM tells you.
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Old 12-10-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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mRNA vaccines have existed for years and the science is strong. Which is why covid vaccines could be developed so quickly. Do you even understand the science?
They have not existed for years, this is the first time they have ever been used on humans, unsuccessful in previous animal attempts. Stop spreading false info please.

Do you even understand science?
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Old 12-10-2021, 08:32 AM
 
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Failed? It's been used against rabies successfully for 11 years
Rabies is not an mRNA vaccine, please stop spreading false info.
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