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Old 12-09-2021, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Jobless claims fall to a 50 year low. Let’s go Brandon!
And what exactly has Brandon done to bring about jobs? nothing.

He pushes policies which kill jobs.

This can be a Brandon win, he causes chaos where employers fire a million people from their high paying career jobs, and then pats himself on the back for creating new jobs the next month, as these newly unemployed people scramble to find any type of employment so they can pay their bills.

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Old 12-09-2021, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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52 years to be exact. What it means is that almost the entirety of the US work force has never seen a better job market that it is right now. Job security, mobility opportunity, and wage growth not seen in decades.
It means so much more than that, Ponderosa, and I believe that you know it. Not so sure about the OP, though.

Speaking of wage growth, we gave everyone a raise at the top of the year. Not their annual increase - a separate 2% raise across the board because prices on consumer goods were already rising.

Now, we could give them another 5% (we actually couldn't afford to, but hypothetically), and it STILL wouldn't be enough to compensate for inflation.

"Wage growth not seen in decades." You say that like it's a good thing.
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Old 12-09-2021, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Another way to say it: "People who have run out of unemployment benefits is at a 50 year high". Jobless claims are based on people filing for unemployment. That's based on those who are eligible for unemployment. Those who refuse to get jabbed aren't counted as jobless.


Let's go Brandon!
From Fortune Magazine:

One result is that there are now about 3.6 million fewer people with jobs than there were before the pandemic. Yet only about one-third of them are actively looking for work and are classified as unemployed. The remaining two-thirds are no longer job-hunting and so aren’t counted as unemployed. The government classifies people as unemployed only if they’re actively seeking work.
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Old 12-09-2021, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Another way to say it: "People who have run out of unemployment benefits is at a 50 year high". Jobless claims are based on people filing for unemployment. That's based on those who are eligible for unemployment. Those who refuse to get jabbed aren't counted as jobless.


Let's go Brandon!
No, that is not what this statistic is. It is the number of people in the week measured who filed new applications for jobless benefits. Put another way, it is the number of people who got laid off and filed for benefits. At its most basic, it means relatively few people lost their jobs in the latest week - the smallest number of insured layoffs in 52 years. If you consider the size of the work force compared to 50 years ago, it is a rather staggering statistic.
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Old 12-09-2021, 09:28 AM
 
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Leave the job market? Is that what you are being told over there in the echo chamber? Over a million people have dropped out and started their own businesses in the past year. This is the greatest entrepreneurial opportunity ever and millions are taking advantage of it. It remains to be seen if they can make a go of it, but clearly they are working - just not for someone else.
And how does that compare to previous years?

Please provide a link.
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Old 12-09-2021, 09:29 AM
 
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No, that is not what this statistic is. It is the number of people in the week measured who filed new applications for jobless benefits. Put another way, it is the number of people who got laid off and filed for benefits. At its most basic, it means relatively few people lost their jobs in the latest week - the smallest number of insured layoffs in 52 years. If you consider the size of the work force compared to 50 years ago, it is a rather staggering statistic.

People generally don't file for benefits if they no longer have any available. Your numbers would be people newly laid off that were never let go during the pandemic and therefore have a new claim. Not all that common.
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Old 12-09-2021, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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No, that is not what this statistic is. It is the number of people in the week measured who filed new applications for jobless benefits. Put another way, it is the number of people who got laid off and filed for benefits. At its most basic, it means relatively few people lost their jobs in the latest week - the smallest number of insured layoffs in 52 years. If you consider the size of the work force compared to 50 years ago, it is a rather staggering statistic.
Don't worry about it. The standard "This doesn't mean what you think it means" interpretation usually comes a few months before "They are cooking the books".
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Old 12-09-2021, 09:54 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Employment-Population Ratio:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/EMRATIO
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Old 12-09-2021, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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People generally don't file for benefits if they no longer have any available. Your numbers would be people newly laid off that were never let go during the pandemic and therefore have a new claim. Not all that common.
No it doesn't mean that either. It means the same thing as it meant for 50 years. Why are you rooting against America? Are you Russian? You should be happy people are not being laid off and the economy is improving.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Leave the job market? Is that what you are being told over there in the echo chamber? Over a million people have dropped out and started their own businesses in the past year. This is the greatest entrepreneurial opportunity ever and millions are taking advantage of it. It remains to be seen if they can make a go of it, but clearly they are working - just not for someone else.

Echo chamber? No, it's actually happening. I am sure many people did start their own business, but please, be smarter than that. It's called "The Great Resignation." Gen Z is at the helm and is literally bragging about it.





https://www.businessinsider.com/typi...s-2021-11?op=1





https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonwi...h=77df4cfd5f87
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