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Old 12-12-2021, 09:16 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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CA already has a law making rifles like the AR 15 illegal. Been on the books for decades. They passed it and required everyone who had such a firearm to turn them in. That didn't work out so to awful well. Oh you can buy an AR in CA still. So long as it meets certain requirements. A "bullet button" instead of a mag release, lower receiver welded shut on the mag well with the mag being made integral and capacity at 10 rounds or under, silly stuff like that. And over ten rounds mags are outright banned. CA types come here all the time just to buy mags. Sporting goods stores and gun shops post signs warning Californians buy mags to take back could land them in really hot water.

CA making firearms laws that are worse than what they have already will be no easy feat. But I'm sure they'll find a way.
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Old 12-12-2021, 09:20 AM
 
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Why does this idiot hate Americans?
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Old 12-12-2021, 09:22 AM
 
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Good. Flip the texas law back at the fascists.
Two separate states with distinctly different cultures. Newsom's stampy foot decree will not stand up to legal scrutiny but thanks for your pointless Godwin comment.
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Old 12-12-2021, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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This is the ugliest form of politics. It's a tit-for-tat approach to governing.
Exactly, it's vengeance style government. While it's easy to ignore radical woke liberal California, I fear other Democratic governors might get bright ideas.

Dems just don't understand that criminals don't follow gun laws, so more guns laws will never work.
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Old 12-12-2021, 10:25 AM
 
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Assault rifles, fire more then one bullet with a single pull of the trigger. So unless they have changed the laws lately, then they are restricted.

What Newsom might have meant is that he wants to ban any scary black rifles(scary to him anyway). In fact, that is probably what he does mean. Its not like a politician should know what he is talking about should he.

Not sure what the afraid part is about.
"Assault rifles, fire more then one bullet with a single pull of the trigger"

Don't think you know much about rifles!

What you describe is a FULL automatic.

They are NOT classified as "assault " weapons.

"Assault weapons-The origin of the term has been attributed to legislators, the firearms industry, gun control groups, and the media." NOT the military.

"Definitions and usageMain article: Assault weapons legislation in the United States
Drawing from federal and state law definitions, the term assault weapon refers primarily to semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns that are able to accept detachable magazines and possess one or more other features.[2][9][10] Some jurisdictions define revolving cylinder shotguns as assault weapons.[11][12] Legislative definitions do not include fully automatic weapons, which are regulated separately as Title II weapons under federal law."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon
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Old 12-12-2021, 10:27 AM
 
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"Assault rifles, fire more then one bullet with a single pull of the trigger"


Don't think you know much about rifles!


What you describe is a FULL automatic.


They are NOT classified as "assault " weapons.


"Assault weapons-The origin of the term has been attributed to legislators, the firearms industry, gun control groups, and the media." NOT the military.


"Definitions and usageMain article: Assault weapons legislation in the United States
Drawing from federal and state law definitions, the term assault weapon refers primarily to semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns that are able to accept detachable magazines and possess one or more other features.[2][9][10] Some jurisdictions define revolving cylinder shotguns as assault weapons.[11][12] Legislative definitions do not include fully automatic weapons, which are regulated separately as Title II weapons under federal law."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon
Assault rifles do fire more then one bullet per trigger pull. Just because politicians have been using the wrong name for years doesnt mean that the real definition changes.
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Old 12-12-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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They are 'heavily restricted'...but again, that really only applies to the law abiding, (criminals do not obey gun laws or bans). LOL


Imo, this was the gov trying to sound tough, without actually doing anything of significance.
"They are 'heavily restricted'"

Sorry, semi autos are NOT "heavily restricted" in most states.
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Old 12-12-2021, 10:34 AM
 
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Assault rifles do fire more then one bullet per trigger pull. Just because politicians have been using the wrong name for years doesnt mean that the real definition changes.
"assault rifles do fire more then one bullet per trigger pull."

If you repeat it enough times, YOU will believe it!

Does NOT make so, though!
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Old 12-12-2021, 10:36 AM
 
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"assault rifles do fire more then one bullet per trigger pull."

If you repeat it enough times, YOU will believe it!

Does NOT make so, though!
Just because politicians try to change the definition of something does mean that its correct.

Without referring to Wiki, what do you consider to be an assault rifle?
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Old 12-12-2021, 11:31 AM
 
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Just because politicians try to change the definition of something does mean that its correct.

Without referring to Wiki, what do you consider to be an assault rifle?
"what do you consider to be an assault rifle?"

Whose state "definition" do you want to use?

It is a MADE UP WORD by some "journalist" who doesn't know squat about guns and wanted to sensationalize a shooting.

It is NOT a military definition.

Some dem controlled states have made up their OWN definitions and NONE are exactly the same.

SO, there is no REAL THING as an "assault weapon"

It is whatever some anti gun wacko wants to call it.

Read the "definitions" over the years,

Explain why a semi auto rifle with a wood stock is NOT an "assault weapon" but the SAME rifle with a black plastic stock is.

"Assault weapons-The origin of the term has been attributed to legislators, the firearms industry, gun control g roups, and the media." NOT the military.

"Definitions and usageMain article: Assault weapons legislation in the United States
Drawing from federal and state law definitions, the term assault weapon refers primarily to semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns that are able to accept detachable magazines and possess one or more other features.[2][9][10] Some jurisdictions define revolving cylinder shotguns as assault weapons.[11][12] Legislative definitions do not include fully automatic weapons, which are regulated separately as Title II weapons under federal law."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

I guess it "depends on what the meaning of the word is, is"!

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