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With as divided as this country is we very well could face the kind of troubles we did 160 years ago. The flood of people fleeing leftists states are largely doing so for political reasons. I understand why they want out of those places but we cannot take in all the dissidents from the socialist north. We do not have enough housing, space or jobs for all of them. I feel sorry for those stuck in left wing lockdown states, however I have watched homes double in prices here in Tennessee from all the inbound defectors from the northeast and California. We cannot sustain this level inbound migration.
Here is a great idea. There are borderline blue/purplish states in the upper Midwest and those states are cheap to live in after years of outbound migration. Conservatives fleeing the northeast and the west coast can buy very cheap homes in states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa and Minnesota. We could turn a problem we have here in the south into a solution for securing the Midwest as future red states. The coastal folks fleeing socialism would get used to the cold and they would find those states are a lot nicer than most people realize. They will have tons of money too when they sell the New York house for 800k and buy a house outside of Grand Rapids or Green Bay for 125k. (Something they can no longer do here) The money they bring to these states would revive the economic situation there and make the Midwest solidly part of America again.
This should be a coordinated effort to redirect these good folks to these Midwest states. In 2016 they voted red. These places do not need a lot of conservative inbounds to make them ours. MN, WI, MI and IA are the salvageable bluish states. They are far from being truly liberal even now....a few hundred thousand freedom loving ex northeastern and Californian folks and they are as good as red.
I would take my deep freeze winter and curmudgeony VTers before I would EVER move to any of the states you list. Minnesota??? forget it. You couldn't pay me to move there. Seriously.
My parents have lived in a small mountain town in rural Western NC for about 20yr. They moved there for a slower pace lifestyle. Over the past 10yr, yankees have moved in droves. What was once a quaint mountain town with polite people now has rude drivers, rude customers in stores, and of course an increase in cost of living. Almost all of my parents' neighbors are northerners and they mock my parent's southern accent and say they don't pronounce things correctly.
If my parents wanted to deal with rude yankees, they would move to New York.
I get why yankees want to move south. The housing is cheaper, taxes are lower, and the weather is better. My parents say that anyone is welcome as long as they aren't rude and can fit in. But many yankees fail at this. Just yesterday I witnessed a guy with a thick northern accent telling the cashier "you need moah cashieahs heah". They just don't understand that in the south, we aren't blunt like that and say things like "wow, y'all are really busy and I'm sad to see you have to work by yourself".
So my question is when will yankees stop moving here? Once housing costs are the same as they are up north?
When climate change makes it warmer in the northern half of the nation.
My parents have lived in a small mountain town in rural Western NC for about 20yr. They moved there for a slower pace lifestyle. Over the past 10yr, yankees have moved in droves. What was once a quaint mountain town with polite people now has rude drivers, rude customers in stores, and of course an increase in cost of living. Almost all of my parents' neighbors are northerners and they mock my parent's southern accent and say they don't pronounce things correctly.
If my parents wanted to deal with rude yankees, they would move to New York.
I get why yankees want to move south. The housing is cheaper, taxes are lower, and the weather is better. My parents say that anyone is welcome as long as they aren't rude and can fit in. But many yankees fail at this. Just yesterday I witnessed a guy with a thick northern accent telling the cashier "you need moah cashieahs heah". They just don't understand that in the south, we aren't blunt like that and say things like "wow, y'all are really busy and I'm sad to see you have to work by yourself".
So my question is when will yankees stop moving here? Once housing costs are the same as they are up north?
The sad part is those yankees fleeing their failed Democrat states will vote the same failed way in the new state they moved to. They can't seem to connect the dots.
Property taxes on a 2500 sq ft home with 5 acres in Upstate NY where I'm from: $8000/yr
(Right next door, New Jersey is even worse)
Property taxes on a comparable home/land in North Carolina: $1300/yr
I'll be the first one to complain about property taxes where I live, but like, who cares about lower property taxes when you have to deal with the rest of the problems that migration and overcrowding cause? assuming you can afford the taxes.
I really wanted to move south and with the exception of upper East Tennessee.....other areas in NC/SC were just too crowded. That was our bottom line. We just want to live quietly.
The sad part is those yankees fleeing their failed Democrat states will vote the same failed way in the new state they moved to. They can't seem to connect the dots.
Maybe when the GOP decides to do stuff for the people who vote for them. Those states are not failing. You notice that the OP is complaining about growth in NC. We are seeing more people coming as halfbacks. Fla is losing it's appeal. Real Estate taxes and Insurance costs are outstripping the tax advantage.
I have seen GOP Reps. forget to get important funding for their Districts because they claim no one told them. They no longer listen to their constitutes.
I'll be the first one to complain about property taxes where I live, but like, who cares about lower property taxes when you have to deal with the rest of the problems that migration and overcrowding cause? assuming you can afford the taxes.
I really wanted to move south and with the exception of upper East Tennessee.....other areas in NC/SC were just too crowded. That was our bottom line. We just want to live quietly.
Crowded?
It depends on where you are in NC, what you do and how far you're willing to commute.
Charlotte and Raleigh kinda suck as far as that goes, but you can live very well in commuting distance to either of these cities and be well into what anyone from a big city would consider "country".
Lots of rural acreage available in the state where you don't have to be very close to anyone if you don't want to be.
And generally speaking, the farther you go outside a major metropolitan area, the cheaper the real estate gets and the lower the property taxes are
As they will have to get used to annoying southern behaviors. It works both ways.
Then don't move here. I seriously don't understand why someone from up north or the left coast would move to the south and enjoy the lower taxes and cost of living, while constantly trying to change things to be what they left.
Do they really not understand that their policies and lifestyle caused the problems they are trying to get away from? Californians -- ruined their own state, now want to move other places and ruin them too.
That said, many Long Islanders are great and welcomed here. They may be blunt and crass but they're as red and traditional as the rest of us.
It's the New Englanders and ex-city residents with the worst attitudes such as "we know best for you".
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