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It's not solely about politics, but certain people sure ruin places when enough of them relocate there. Arizona used to be cheap, clean, peaceful, and not crowded and now it is the total opposite due to liberals. Nobody wants people bringing their stupidity and destruction with them.
Yeah, but a lot of people (especially here) really land hard on the political side of answering these questions, so I was addressing that side of the ledger. I’m not that type of person, but I won’t pretend that politics aren’t some part of where I’d like to live.
It's not solely about politics, but certain people sure ruin places when enough of them relocate there. Arizona used to be cheap, clean, peaceful, and not crowded and now it is the total opposite due to liberals. Nobody wants people bringing their stupidity and destruction with them.
That's not true.
Arizona used to be the elderly's favorite state to retire, and they were a very large group of conservatives. Most came from the 2 generations of conservatives that reached retirement in the 1980s up to the 2000s.
20 years later, a lot of these old folks are now dying or leaving to go die in their old home states. Their departure is making room for younger people to move into Arizona. While these newcomers are not all liberals, there are fewer conservatives among them than there were in earlier times.
Forget about ever seeing cheap and uncrowded again. The entire West is getting new immigration to it, and it's the largest national population shift in the last 50 years.
if you're growing tired of Arizona and want a cheaper, cleaner, more uncrowded place, it won't be long before they will all be found in the midwest states an in the east where folks are leaving for life out here.
That's not true.
Arizona used to be the elderly's favorite state to retire, and they were a very large group of conservatives. Most came from the 2 generations of conservatives that reached retirement in the 1980s up to the 2000s.
20 years later, a lot of these old folks are now dying or leaving to go die in their old home states. Their departure is making room for younger people to move into Arizona. While these newcomers are not all liberals, there are fewer conservatives among them than there were in earlier times.
Forget about ever seeing cheap and uncrowded again. The entire West is getting new immigration to it, and it's the largest national population shift in the last 50 years.
if you're growing tired of Arizona and want a cheaper, cleaner, more uncrowded place, it won't be long before they will all be found in the midwest states an in the east where folks are leaving for life out here.
Forget about ever seeing cheap and uncrowded again.
Truer words were never spoken. And not just about Arizona. The overcrowding and traffic are everywhere. There are just too many people.
Maybe it's a good thing that the younger generations are having fewer children. Between that and the boomers dying off over the next 20-some-odd years, maybe population will come back to a more balanced state.
I just hope that people don't lose the best recipes from the various ethnic groups. That would be a real loss.
"They dont spend much money other than overpaying for property which drives up housing costs."
And you can back this up?
I live in 1 of those ares and see an entirely DIFFERENT picture.
"most of our transplants here are retirees." Same here.
"They dont spend much money other than overpaying for property"
Who do you thinks keeps business open when it is NOT "summertime", when all the vacationing tourists come to town.
The local restaurants, grocery stores, car dealers, auto repair shops, which includes oil changes and tuneups, the local hardware stores, the local pharmacy, furniture stores, the over 100 golf courses, lawn care companies, etc., etc., etc?
I dont live in a tourist town. The retirees live here full time. So the answer would be locals and transplants. Overall transplants do not add a net positive gain.
Nope, I have no idea because I have not traveled to the south enough to eat at any such places, and as I already made clear, I wouldn't seek Italian food or expect it to be good down South in the first place.
The few times I've been to the South and dined out, I ate local food at local places. Mostly fresh-caught fish.
An exception was being disappointed by low-quality beef when I got a burger in Dallas. I expected the meat to be good since they raise a lot of cattle nearby, but it didn't have much flavor and had hard chewy things in it. I did have the opportunity to eat barbecued armadillo at another place in Texas. Tasted awful, but I TRIED it.
Had a burger in North Carolina once, I think, and was caught off-guard by the fact that they put mayonnaise and mustard on it without asking, which I would not ordinarily want on a burger and which would not happen by default in New Jersey. Now I know to be wary of that if I ever go down there again. (They pulled the same thing way up here in SOUTHERN Ontario last week, which is why it is fresh in my mind!)
All I know is when I go to a local Mexican restaurant it is owned by Mexicans, the cooks are Mexican, when I go the local Italian restaurant it is owned by Italians, the cooks are Italian, when I go to the local Thai restaurant it is own by Taiwanese, the cooks are Taiwanese, German restaurant, etc. etc.
So why would food cooked by authentic ethic person be wonderful in the north, but the same food cooked by authentic ethic person in the south be subpar?
That's not true.
Arizona used to be the elderly's favorite state to retire, and they were a very large group of conservatives. Most came from the 2 generations of conservatives that reached retirement in the 1980s up to the 2000s.
20 years later, a lot of these old folks are now dying or leaving to go die in their old home states. Their departure is making room for younger people to move into Arizona. While these newcomers are not all liberals, there are fewer conservatives among them than there were in earlier times.
Forget about ever seeing cheap and uncrowded again. The entire West is getting new immigration to it, and it's the largest national population shift in the last 50 years.
if you're growing tired of Arizona and want a cheaper, cleaner, more uncrowded place, it won't be long before they will all be found in the midwest states an in the east where folks are leaving for life out here.
This is not true or else this state wouldn't have hit near rock bottom in such a small period of time. People fleeing from failed states ruined Arizona. This also why I am against immigration. If there weren't so much (especially illegal) I doubt we'd be having this conversation.
If you call high taxes, cost of living, over crowded, dirty, and ridiculous crime living the life then I don't know what to tell you. Sounds like someone who fits the shoe of one of my previous posts
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Ontario last week, which is why it is fresh in my mind!)