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Old 12-13-2021, 10:34 PM
 
Location: California
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This is medical school...people could DIE.
In San Jose it is difficult to find an American doctor but seriously, who wants to be treated by a third tier doctor? If a complaint is made, it is dismissed since they are "practicing" medicine. We need merit based admissions, not non-White bias.

Admissions calls it Non-White Bias because they cannot face their own racism.
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Old 12-13-2021, 10:37 PM
 
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So....are these diversity admits academically qualified?

Yes they are with more black/hispanic admission...high GPA's and high MCAT scores are critical for entrance to Medical School...


https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...-for-admission


And of course...Asians have the highest GPA's/MCAT scores/usually work the hardest, so no surprise...they are the most over represented well deserved minority in the Medical field...



https://pubs.asahq.org/monitor/artic...ented-Minority

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Old 12-13-2021, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Japan
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If they pass their boards and are well trained I don’t see a problem.

Not every doctor needs to be a genius to do a good job.
Different skills are needed for different specialties. Some require more strength and stamina, some greater artistic abilities, some must have a bedside manner and many need to have business sense.
Please... we don't need doctors who are minimally competent. Doctors ought to be as smart, knowledgeable and skillful as possible. People's lives depend on it. And why should we have any confidence that the boards will remain? According to the now dominant way of thinking they are racist, since members of some groups are much more likely to fail them than others. They'll almost certainly be dumbed down until the current crop of students can pass.

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Old 12-14-2021, 12:35 AM
 
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If they pass their boards and are well trained I don’t see a problem.
Not every doctor needs to be a genius to do a good job.
Different skills are needed for different specialties. Some require more strength and stamina, some greater artistic abilities, some must have a bedside manner and many need to have business sense.
A. Artistic abilities?

B. I'm betting right now that a disproportionate number of those comprising the growth among black and Hispanics noted will require 5 or 6 years to finish. Proportionally more will wash out of medical school or fail to pass the USMLE Step 1 test, unless lefties abolish the test, and more who graduate will not match into a residency.

We know this for two reasons:
1. There is no sudden swell of qualified blacks and Hispanics.
2. Per medical training these groups have lagged the averages for many years....requiring 5 and 6 years more often, lower USMLE averages, not matching as well etc.
3. 2 isn't surprising as blacks and Hispanics admitted on average have lower MCAT scores, lower grades, lower USMLE Step 1 scores and fail more often etc. It's all in AAMC data.

It'll be interesting to watch AAMC matriculation data over the next several years.
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Old 12-14-2021, 12:39 AM
 
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Yes they are with more black/hispanic admission...high GPA's and high MCAT scores are critical for entrance to Medical School...


https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...-for-admission


And of course...Asians have the highest GPA's/MCAT scores/usually work the hardest, so no surprise...they are the most over represented well deserved minority in the Medical field...



https://pubs.asahq.org/monitor/artic...ented-Minority
His point wasn't are those within the increase are not qualified per se but were others more qualified not admitted. The answer is absolutely.
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Old 12-14-2021, 03:32 AM
 
Location: My house
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Until no White person has a job.
well if you are over 70 and white, there are plenty of careers in politics because they are the old whites who really care and totally not part of the “system”. the clapping seal voters tend to agree.
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Old 12-14-2021, 06:07 AM
 
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His point wasn't are those within the increase are not qualified per se but were others more qualified not admitted. The answer is absolutely.
Exactly. Med school/law school/whatever admissions should be on merit and merit ONLY. And the color of your skin is NOT merit.
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Old 12-14-2021, 06:20 AM
 
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Doctors retired in droves during COVID. No doubt it is easier to get into Medical School no matter what color or ethnicity you are. There is a huge shortage of doctors.
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Old 12-14-2021, 06:34 AM
 
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Doctors retired in droves during COVID. No doubt it is easier to get into Medical School no matter what color or ethnicity you are. There is a huge shortage of doctors.
How does doctors retiring impact medical school admissions metrics in the short term? A derivative point is if we increase medical school admits we must increase the number of residencies in lagging but corresponding fashion or all net these new MDs will be bussing tables in four (or five or six) years.
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Old 12-14-2021, 06:36 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Was this done through the achievements of minorities or the lowering of standards and/or quotas? If the former, good for them! If the latter, bad for future patients.
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