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Old 12-16-2021, 01:10 PM
 
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I don't know about afraid, but maybe they don't want to go to the PTA meeting to ask white parents or the school to teach white kids to keep their hands off black kids' hair.
How will segregated playground nights solve any of this?
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:21 PM
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How will segregated playground nights solve any of this?
Segregated playground nights imply that there is a white group meeting at the playground, and families of color aren't invited.

That's not happening. White people don't appear to be especially in need of support in order to achieve at that school, thus no real desire for white people to join together separate from a community that's very successful, and encourage each other.

That's how that works.
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:25 PM
 
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Segregated playground nights imply that there is a white group meeting at the playground, and families of color aren't invited.

That's not happening. White people don't appear to be especially in need of support in order to achieve at that school, thus no real desire for white people to join together separate from a community that's very successful, and encourage each other.

That's how that works.
Segregated playground nights are when you hold a playground group based on race. That is what they are doing.

How does this event help the kids educationally?

All families are always welcome to play on the playground after school any day of the week.

I looked up my kid’s school and Hispanics are outperforming white students significantly. Never in a million years would I support a playground night for white students to help bridge the gap.
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:27 PM
 
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How will segregated playground nights solve any of this?
The school has some action item to address this issue.

The playground night gives Black families a support system/networking venue to check-in with each other if the schools action was effective or if they still are encountering this issue.
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:28 PM
 
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The school has some action item to address this issue.

The playground night gives Black families a support system/networking venue to check-in with each other if the schools action was effective or if they still are encountering this issue.
What action item? I thought holding the POC playground night was the action item.
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:29 PM
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Segregated playground nights are when you hold a playground group based on race. That is what they are doing.

How does this event help the kids educationally?

All families are always welcome to play on the playground after school any day of the week.

I looked up my kid’s school and Hispanics are outperforming white students significantly. Never in a million years would I support a playground night for white students to help bridge the gap.
I've said this until I'm blue in the face, Terri. I know you had to have seen what I said.

"Belonging" to a school, and feeling a part of the community, in fact, DOES make parents care more and become more invested in their child's educational success.

Parents who don't feel included, don't feel "heard", will often just send their kid off to school with no support. A parent that has a good relationship with teachers and other parents will go the extra mile, and help the child prepare for spelling tests, make sure the child has completed homework, is more willing to help out reading to the class and understanding what's expected in the curriculum, etc.

And that's just a fact. Parents who feel warm about their school, and included, encourage their children much more than parents who have hostile or feelings of being unwelcome or hopeless.
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:35 PM
 
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What action item? I thought holding the POC playground night was the action item.
They planned some instruction to teach the kids not to touch without consent, and not to tease about hair or possibly any physical characteristic. From the link you posted about the schools website.

"Plan explicit instruction around consent, appreciating and respecting diversity, particularly around Black hair, while honoring Wonder (WoRLD CARE habit)"

Not sure what the Wonder world care habit is.
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:35 PM
 
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I've said this until I'm blue in the face, Terri. I know you had to have seen what I said.

"Belonging" to a school, and feeling a part of the community, in fact, DOES make parents care more and become more invested in their child's educational success.

Parents who don't feel included, don't feel "heard", will often just send their kid off to school with no support. A parent that has a good relationship with teachers and other parents will go the extra mile, and help the child prepare for spelling tests, make sure the child has completed homework, is more willing to help out reading to the class and understanding what's expected in the curriculum, etc.

And that's just a fact. Parents who feel warm about their school, and included, encourage their children much more than parents who have hostile or feelings of being unwelcome or hopeless.
I agree with you that parents who feel welcome are more involved. I disagree with you that holding segregated playground nights is a good way to solve this. They should come up with some other less divisive, less Jim Crow like ideas.
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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I agree with you that parents who feel welcome are more involved. I disagree with you that holding segregated playground nights is a good way to solve this. They should come up with some other less divisive, less Jim Crow like ideas.
Like what?
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:42 PM
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I agree with you that parents who feel welcome are more involved. I disagree with you that holding segregated playground nights is a good way to solve this. They should come up with some other less divisive, less Jim Crow like ideas.
Our schools do this a little less obviously. Our middle school has an "international night", where all families are encouraged to bring a dish that is typical of what they eat in their homes, typical of what they might have eaten as children.

Everyone is welcome.

Only non-european many generational families attend. And they eat delicious food. And get to know each other.

Because communities who are in the minority need each other. They need the support. And although these families tend to have very successful students, they still enjoy coming together with people who spoke their first language, or might know their cultural references. Because that's being human.
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