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This has been going on for many years. It has been happening, since the Vietnam War and maybe even before.
How do you figure that?
I think PTSD first appears in DSM III, so to claim it occurred during Vietnam and beforehand is totally absurd, underhanded and deceitful.
Like the doctor said when the jury awarded damages for Toxic Shock Syndrome, "maybe we should award compensation for victims of pneumonia before penicillin existed."
I don't see anything wrong with denying claims for a predetermined period of time, especially if such a time frame distinguishes between PTSD and adjustment disorder. Can you not see what has happened over the last 10 years?
The "symptoms" for all diseases metal or physical are published on the internet and advertised in magazines and television, so all it takes is a simple moron to memorize the symptoms and regurgitate them to a doctor to get certain prescription medications.
Sorry, suicide is not one of the symptoms of PTSD. I know, I've been there and been treated for PTSD (3 months in-patient 9-months out-patient at the DOM), but I don't get any compensation because no one can find my military medical records. Congressman Chabot and Senators Voinovich and Brown (and DeWine) have been trying to get them for the last 7 years.
I don't have a problem waiting a period of time to get the diagnosis accurate.
Let's be real. There are people on naval vessels that never saw combat during Vietnam claiming they have PTSD. Really?
There are REMFs and supply-pukes in Vietnam that never saw a dead body claiming PTSD, so let's be real, it's all bull-****.
My grandfather never saw the US for 4 freaking years and those weak pathetic slimy excremental worm pukes whine and cry about being in Iraq for 6 months of combat duty (yeah -- read and weep -- a tour of duty in Iraq is 3 months training -- 6 months on the ground -- 3 months hearts 'n' minds).
My grandfather was in North Africa, Italy and Germany, with planes dropping bombs on him (Iraq-veteran pukes -- what planes?) and artillery falling on him for hours and hours and hours day and night for weeks and weeks (Iraq-pukes -- what freaking artillery?).
So I'm glad someone is protecting the tax-payers. Iraq a war zone? Yeah, I have more respect for cops in Detroit than troops in Iraq.
Hopefully we don't have a real war that requires deployment for more than 1 year.
I'm just curious, but I've never heard anyone describe the troops in a way that you have. I always think you have some very interesting things to say, but is it this particular war that causes you to think this way about Iraq veterans? For me, I feel kind of sorry for them with their redeployments. I feel even worse that they have to fight in a stupid and senseless war. Maybe this contributes to worse psychiatric symptoms than would be the case if they were fighting in a just war.
...a tour of duty in Iraq is 3 months training -- 6 months on the ground -- 3 months hearts 'n' minds).
(Iraq-veteran pukes -- what planes?) and artillery falling on him for hours and hours and hours day and night for weeks and weeks (Iraq-pukes -- what freaking artillery?).
So I'm glad someone is protecting the tax-payers. Iraq a war zone? Yeah, I have more respect for cops in Detroit than troops in Iraq.
Hopefully we don't have a real war that requires deployment for more than 1 year.
You obviously have not been to Iraq. There are enough mortars, rockets (both of which are part of that wondrous artillery family), and bullets every day to kill you many times over. Detroit? MFP!
And those tour length dates sure aren't any the Army is going by...
Just because the formal diagnosis of PTSD didn't enter the DSM until fairly recently, that doesn't mean that veterans and others didn't have it long before them. My great-grandfather came back from his generation's Vietnam, the Phillipine Insurrection, with every sign and symptom of PTSD that we recognize today.
That's like saying that the common cold didn't exist before DSM I came out.
The term PTSD developed in the 1970s to describe the stress problems returning vets from Vietnam experienced. The use of the terminology was suppressed for many years by the federal government in an attempt to limit financial claims by vet. If it's not a recognized condition, the VA can't treat it.
To suggest otherwise is just ignorant, dishonest or both. The malady has been recognized since the earliest days of combat and has been called various names like "battle fatigue" or "shell shock".
Just because the formal diagnosis of PTSD didn't enter the DSM until fairly recently, that doesn't mean that veterans and others didn't have it long before them. My great-grandfather came back from his generation's Vietnam, the Phillipine Insurrection, with every sign and symptom of PTSD that we recognize today.
That's like saying that the common cold didn't exist before DSM I came out.
Well, SAD (seasonal affective disorder) sure was and still is an issue for me and LONG before it made its way into the DSM.
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Isn't deliberately mis-diagnosing a problem malpractice at best or ciminal at the worst? If nothing else I woud think it a violation of the oath every doctor takes.
Or are military doctors not subject to all three?
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