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Who knows. I know the average age of a person with omicron in SA was in their 20's. Plus its propaganda. They want to stop the travel ban. Put out fake good news helps.
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Originally Posted by DrPibbs
Maybe the population is different? Climate is different (temperature, humidity). Maybe fewer fat people? The average age of the population of South Africa is 28, the US 38, Germany 48.
Even with the younger age, SA still had a higher death count than most of Africa.
I'm going to make a guess---SA has a low vax rate, high natural infection rate. UK, US, and other western nations-- thanks to non-stop propaganda and brute force methods---have a comparatively high vax uptake. Maybe the vaxxed get infected with this variant more?
Whatever the reason, the best course of action regarding Omicron is for governments to DO NOTHING.
They should be working on boosters for the omicron variant right now because the boosters we have are only going to provide a couple months of protection and you're not going to get people to take multiple every 3 month booster shots in order to stay vaccinated.
If they want any chance of this vaccination b******* to succeed they need to make sure that the vaccines they are offering provided at least six to nine months of protection so they better get working on an omicron booster before they start their mandates (which they shouldn't be doing anyways) or they're going to have a large number of people around the world simply rebel.
I have no real desire to travel so I don't have to worry about masks on planes or vaccine passports. I don't want to visit a country with leadership pimping this crap on the masses anyways.
They are still working on boosters for Delta. Now Delta was first found in May 2021.
It's now December 2021 and nothing has been submitted to the FDA for approval.
I'd say easily 8-10 months or even 1 year LATER before any booster is available for the current variant du jour.
They are still working on boosters for Delta. Now Delta was first found in May 2021.
It's now December 2021 and nothing has been submitted to the FDA for approval.
I'd say easily 8-10 months or even 1 year LATER before any booster is available for the current variant du jour.
Wait until the variant pops up that both is highly infectious and evades current vaccines entirely. It's coming. You can see the 2020's are going to be a lost decade with our current nanny state leadership at the helm. This is never going to end if they have a say in it.
It will destroy the global economy in the end. I can see their point of view and why they think all this is justified though. Time will tell.
UK's scientific body is looking at up to 2 million cases per day and 6000 deaths. Even though omicron may be less deadly, the sheer numbers that will be infected will overwhelm their medical system. Netherlands goes into lockdown on Monday. UK has been a pretty reliable predictor of what the US will see a few weeks later.
Wait until the variant pops up that both is highly infectious and evades current vaccines entirely. It's coming. You can see the 2020's are going to be a lost decade with our current nanny state leadership at the helm. This is never going to end if they have a say in it.
It will destroy the global economy in the end.
Shall I repeat the mantra that "no vaccine is 100%".
Oh..not even the government is repeating their own mantra any more.
The vaccines did not deliver as promised. They aren't working to prevent infection. And they wear off too quick to prevent serious infection..they last about 4 months from what I can gather (Israel study).
It's starting to look like the more shots you get the more susceptible you are becoming because the surges that are happening are bigger than the previous ones when less people had shots.
NYC is full of vaccinated sick people now and DeBlasio is blaming it on Omicron.
BUT...what if it's the vaccine and not the virus ?
The OP quote doesn't include the important finding that booster protection while significantly diminished (in a statistical sense) still provided protection against symptomatic infection of between 55 and 80%. That is in general agreement with lab testing of the vaccines, but somewhat lower.
But the big thing the study leaves out (and are clear that they did) is cellular immunity from previous infection or vaccination. That is likely why the South African experience is what it is. The US has at least as much seroprevalence in the population as South Africa (so does UK) so this is likely going to hit the unvaccinated like a ton of bricks (just because it is so much more likely they will get sick due to contagiousness) while sparing the vaccinated from serious illness.
The OP quote doesn't include the important finding that booster protection while significantly diminished (in a statistical sense) still provided protection against symptomatic infection of between 55 and 80%. That is in general agreement with lab testing of the vaccines, but somewhat lower.
But the big thing the study leaves out (and are clear that they did) is cellular immunity from previous infection or vaccination. That is likely why the South African experience is what it is. The US has at least as much seroprevalence in the population as South Africa (so does UK) so this is likely going to hit the unvaccinated like a ton of bricks (just because it is so much more likely they will get sick due to contagiousness) while sparing the vaccinated from serious illness.
It's not a study at all. It is a report. Big difference. Of course cellular immunity was left out because it was computer modeling based on hospital records.
It's not a study at all. It is a report. Big difference. Of course cellular immunity was left out because it was computer modeling based on hospital records.
The link (Reuters) called it a study, so take it up with them.
The bottom line is clear and has been for some time now: two dose vaccinated people are going to get mild cases, boostered people are going to mostly get asymptomatic cases and mild cases, previously infected will get mild cases, and unvaccinated people are going to get the gamut and be the ones going to hospitals in big numbers and dying. South Africa yesterday said 90% of deaths in the omicron wave are among the unvaccinated - no different from what we see with delta - the same thing that CDC and Fauci and every public health agency around the globe have been saying for months.
The link (Reuters) called it a study, so take it up with them.
The bottom line is clear and has been for some time now: two dose vaccinated people are going to get mild cases, boostered people are going to mostly get asymptomatic cases and mild cases, previously infected will get mild cases, and unvaccinated people are going to get the gamut and be the ones going to hospitals in big numbers and dying. South Africa yesterday said 90% of deaths in the omicron wave are among the unvaccinated - no different from what we see with delta - the same thing that CDC and Fauci and every public health agency around the globe have been saying for months.
Which means you will believe it's a study all because Reuter's said so.
Never question the MSM..is that it ?
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