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Old 12-20-2021, 06:47 AM
 
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As of Saturday evening, the UK had over 37,000 omicron cases with just 104 hospitalizations. That seems pretty mild.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...n_Overview.pdf
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Old 12-21-2021, 11:24 AM
 
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As of Saturday evening, the UK had over 37,000 omicron cases with just 104 hospitalizations. That seems pretty mild.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...n_Overview.pdf

Deaths are spiking in South Africa. 105 yesterday. 43 is the 7 day moving average. Just a couple weeks ago 10 was the 7 day moving average.



Previous waves, deaths did not being rising quickly until 3 to 4 weeks after cases spiked. We are now at 3 weeks since the cases began rising quickly.
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Old 12-21-2021, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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This is what I expected even with the early reports from SA of it being milder. Just wrong information. They were comparing college age students to older people in other countries and forming a conclusion from that. This might end up being by far the worst wave but hopefully the last major one. Vaccines and boosters as well as natural immunity may be worthless.


Omicron more likely to reinfect than Delta, no milder -study

The risk of reinfection with the Omicron coronavirus variant is more than five times higher and it has shown no sign of being milder than Delta, a study showed, as cases soar across Europe and threaten year-end festivities.The results of the study by Imperial College London were based on UK Health Security Agency and National Health Service data on people who tested positive for COVID-19 in a PCR test in England between Nov. 29 and Dec. 11.

"We find no evidence (for both risk of hospitalisation attendance and symptom status) of Omicron having different severity from Delta," the study said

The researchers found a significantly increased risk of developing a symptomatic Omicron case compared to Delta for those who were two or more weeks past their second vaccine dose, and two or more weeks past their booster dose.

"This study provides further evidence of the very substantial extent to which Omicron can evade prior immunity given by both infection or vaccination," study lead Professor Neil Ferguson said in ICL's statement.

"This level of immune evasion means that Omicron poses a major, imminent threat to public health."
Okay then, how maybe people have died from Omicron?
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Old 12-22-2021, 05:37 PM
 
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Okay then, how maybe people have died from Omicron?

Last 2 days 200 people have died in South Africa. 100+ per day. They were averaging 10 a day a few weeks back. Most if not all are Omicron deaths I would assume.
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Old 12-22-2021, 08:03 PM
 
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This is what I expected even with the early reports from SA of it being milder. Just wrong information. They were comparing college age students to older people in other countries and forming a conclusion from that. This might end up being by far the worst wave but hopefully the last major one. Vaccines and boosters as well as natural immunity may be worthless.
No, you're interpreting one study and then using that to refute another study which itself can be refuted by another. Calling it "wrong information" is wrong in and of itself.

He's another study, being published in Panic Porn Central, aka The Washington Post, showing Omicron is less likely to result in hospitalization than Delta.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c5e_story.html
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Old 12-22-2021, 11:02 PM
 
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Last 2 days 200 people have died in South Africa. 100+ per day. They were averaging 10 a day a few weeks back. Most if not all are Omicron deaths I would assume.
The omicron wave is already passing in South Africa and the spike in deaths is, fortunately, just a blip compared with earlier waves. And in the U.K....
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In earlier waves, rising death rates would follow an increase in cases; the impact of rising cases on death rates could be seen visually and validated statistically. Deaths would follow cases upward, and peak roughly two to three weeks after new cases began trending downward. With Omicron, however, we not only don’t see the rise in death rates that were associated with the first waves, but we actually see a continuing decline in death rates, despite a radical increase in cases.
https://www.statnews.com/2021/12/22/...redict-deaths/

So it really does look like omicron is a lot milder than earlier versions.
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Old 12-23-2021, 05:42 AM
 
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I am not going to believe what is being said in South Africa. They have a vested interest in downplaying Omicron. They are not happy with the travel bans to SA and saying its much weaker would be in their interest. Are they doing that? Who knows.
A further UK study now suggest Omicron is fairly mild in most cases.

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If you have a sore throat, runny nose and a headache there is a good chance it will be Covid, warn UK researchers.

The Zoe Covid study team has been tracking the pandemic using feedback from the general public, and estimates half of people with cold-like symptoms actually have Covid.

They describe an "explosion" of Covid cases over the last week, driven by the new Omicron variant.

About 144,000 people a day are catching it and then feeling unwell.

For most, Covid is a mild disease. Some get no symptoms at all.

Preliminary studies suggest the Omicron coronavirus variant is milder, with fewer people getting severely ill than with other variants.

Omicron: Half of colds will be Covid, warn UK researchers - BBC News (23rd December 2021)
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Old 12-23-2021, 05:53 AM
 
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It's not a study at all. It is a report. Big difference. Of course cellular immunity was left out because it was computer modeling based on hospital records.
The fear piece is not even based upon any data. C'mon. post responsibly.
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