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Old 12-21-2021, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I'm reading there have been more covid deaths this year, with the vaccine, than last year without it. Is this true?
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Old 12-21-2021, 05:32 AM
 
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nope, its Winter the same thing happened last year. It gets cold people stay inside and one person in the house gets sick and everybody does.
Neither wife nor I have covid vax. She has flu shot, I don’t. She’s been sick twice (not Covid) and never gave it to me or the baby...I think she had some form of coronavirus and the flu. She’s a teacher, gets sick every year in November like clockwork
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Old 12-21-2021, 05:34 AM
 
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Yes. Unequivocally. The blood of the dead will stain the hands of the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers for eternity. The pandemic would not have been so bad if people had just had a tiny bit of compassion and consideration for others. But instead we got, "mah body, mah choice, Merica!"

Well, unless you live on a farm and don't go to town it's not just your body that's affected. You have a RESPONSIBILITY to help protect everyone.

Yes, there are still challenges with vaccines and efficacy because of UNVACCINATED people causing mutations, which may well set us right back to day one.

This is not rocket science, it is simple common sense. I bet if your skin was covered in dripping boils and pus or you turned into a zombie people would have been fighting to be first in line.

But instead we have a pandemic of the inconsiderate, who are taking the rest of us down with them.
That is basically the complete opposite of what Dr. Robert Malone says, I.e, vaccinating in the middle of a pandemic causes mutations. Unvaccinated people can’t get covid twice, so how do they create mutations?
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Old 12-21-2021, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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No I don't believe it and since we have been told (science) that even those vaccinated will still get Covid, this statement is clearly false.

Since the Vaccine prevents severe effects of covid, why should I (vax) be concerned about either vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals. Either can have Covid but neither can give me a severe case of covid. It makes no difference to me because I have the vaccine. I am good.

You do you, I will do me!
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Old 12-21-2021, 05:43 AM
 
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I'm reading there have been more covid deaths this year, with the vaccine, than last year without it. Is this true?

Yes, so far this year it is about 420k death, last year it was about 380k. One side might say, why are there more deaths when the vaccine is wildly available vs when the vaccines were not. Another side might say the 2021 death would be much higher if not for the vaccines.

One think is for certain, we ain't going back to normal. Not just with covid, with everything, this world is upside down. I think the right answer is really right, it is obvious, stupidly obvious. But we have insane people who cannot think critically and have to be told what to think.


https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...ass-2020-total
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Old 12-21-2021, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And you responded? Not sure your point in your response?

But lets play. So the vaccinated (and boosted) can still get the virus and also transmit the virus?
The amount of vaccinated that carry the virus are almost entirely asymptomatic the amount that end up hospitalized that are boosted are almost non-existent. The problem isn't people carrying the disease it's the ones ending up in hospitals which is almost entirely unvaccinated.

Testing positive for the virus is unimportant for the most part if vaccinated, the vaccines were never designed to prevent a person from testing positive.

You asked how can Elizabeth Warren test positive since she was boosted, that tells me you don't know that vaccinated can carry the virus.

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Old 12-21-2021, 05:58 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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It's no longer the "pandemic of the unvaccinated". It's now the "pandemic of the unboosted".

BAAM...I called it !

I knew it was just a matter of time.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/21/healt...day/index.html
The impact of the Omicron coronavirus variant on a largely unboosted US population going into the holiday season will create a "perfect storm" that will challenge health care systems from coast to coast, an expert said Monday.
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Old 12-21-2021, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's no longer the "pandemic of the unvaccinated". It's now the "pandemic of the unboosted".

BAAM...I called it !

I knew it was just a matter of time.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/21/healt...day/index.html
The impact of the Omicron coronavirus variant on a largely unboosted US population going into the holiday season will create a "perfect storm" that will challenge health care systems from coast to coast, an expert said Monday.
Yes the efficacy of the vaccines run out after 6 months and they need to be boosted, that is not some revelation. People who have not received the booster are at some point the same as the unvaccinated, that has been stated for months.
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Old 12-21-2021, 06:08 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's no longer the "pandemic of the unvaccinated". It's now the "pandemic of the unboosted".

BAAM...I called it !

I knew it was just a matter of time.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/21/healt...day/index.html
The impact of the Omicron coronavirus variant on a largely unboosted US population going into the holiday season will create a "perfect storm" that will challenge health care systems from coast to coast, an expert said Monday.
Bring out the Petards and blast holes in the homes of those that are not "boosted". What a joke. Now not having your 78th booster shot means you are now unvaxxed.


This is the left in summary. Monty Python skit in real life.
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Old 12-21-2021, 06:09 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Yes the efficacy of the vaccines run out after 6 months and they need to be boosted, that is not some revelation. People who have not received the booster are at some point the same as the unvaccinated, that has been stated for months.
Israel is in the process of approving another booster..4th shot.
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