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Old 12-27-2021, 09:02 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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No vaccine is 100% effective.

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That's the new mantra now since the covid "vaccines" don't seem to be working.
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Old 12-27-2021, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Two months ago... he told us it was coming. How does he know? What's the science behind new variants exploding from dormancy?

Answer: they aren't mutating. They are probably from the lab as well. Trafficked through one of the numerous border chaos events, spread throughout the country, and prepped for aerosol delivery.

Oct 2021 - Dr. Fauci predicts what could happen next with COVID-19

Dr. Anthony Fauci has a prediction brewing for COVID-19 — too much circulating virus could lead to another wave of infections.

Fauci told Fox News Sunday that COVID-19 numbers are getting better — there are less cases, hospitalizations and deaths as of late.

But Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said numbers could go back up if vaccination rates don’t increase.

If we don’t do very well in that regard, there’s always the danger that there will be enough circulating virus that you can have a stalling of the diminishing of the number of cases and when that happens, as we’ve seen in the past with other waves that we’ve been through, there’s the danger of resurgence,” Fauci said.


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But Fauci told Fox News Sunday that he doesn’t expect to see another wave of coronavirus infections, especially with more vaccinations.

It’s going to be within our capability to prevent that from happening,” Fauci said. “The degree to which we continue to come down in that slope will depend on how well we do about getting more people vaccinated.”


Was this a prediction or a threat?

Three times he says it's within our control. Three times.

The vaccinated people are the main people spreading the Omicron. Those are the people who followed the edicts.
The previous greatest surge was a result of the protracted 2020 holiday season, when the masses gathered despite recommendations to avoid doing so. Not rocket science to anticipate the same will happen as a result to gathering in the 2021 holiday season, especially considering:

Delta is twice as contagious as the original viruses were in 2020- early 2021, and

Omicron is twice as contagious as Delta, and

Tens of millions are unvaccinated, and

The efficacy of vaccines begins to wane at the 5-6 month mark, and

Only 25% of those previously vaccinated got boosted, and

People are beyond tired of the whole thing.
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Old 12-27-2021, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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That's the new mantra now since the covid "vaccines" don't seem to be working.
Nothing new about it.

Very clear from the start, Covid vaccines were not 100% effective, no diff than any other vaccine.

People tend to have selective hearing.
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Old 12-27-2021, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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Nothing new about it.

Very clear from the start
, Covid vaccines were not 100% effective, no diff than any other vaccine.

People tend to have selective hearing.

bolded is false. Totally agree people have selective hearing, though. Its an extension of confirmation bias.
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Old 12-27-2021, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Incorrect. Your agenda is in flames.

Just got off the phone with my triple vaxxed coworker. He has Covid. Caught it from his triple vaxxed daughter. His triple vaxxed wife also has it.

A close friend of mine is a dental hygienist. Her entire office has it except herself and the dentist. ALL are vaxxed.

These past two weeks our ER is being BLASTED with Covid patients. The vaxxed far outnumber the unvaxxed.

You can keep repeating your mantra but I am on the ground on the front lines so to speak and you are WRONG.
90% of Covid hospitalizations in my state are unvaccinated.

The good news is that those who are vaccinated and boosted are less likely to get serious Covid and require hospitalization. Even better, is that more are surviving hospitalization.

On the other hand, several states have asked the federal government for resources as some hospitals in some regions are overwhelmed.

I was scheduled for a routine annual mammogram this morning. The facility is located within a hospital. The facility cancelled this morning as they don’t have adequate staffing to function.
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Old 12-27-2021, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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bolded is false. Totally agree people have selective hearing, though. Its an extension of confirmation bias.
12/11/2020

FDA announces approval of Pfizer vaccine for emergency use and 95% effectiveness.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...first-covid-19

This was before Delta emerged from the 1.4 billion unvaccinated in India. Delta was twice as contagious as original forms.

Then came Omicron, twice as contagious as Delta.

We have known since mid summer, the efficacy of vaccines begins to wane at the 5-6 month mark.
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Old 12-27-2021, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Natural immunity is what protected south Africans from omicron.
Due to birth rates, Africa has the youngest population on Earth. It also has the lowest projected life expectancy. In some countries it is as low as 53 years.

Healthcare trends non- existent - primitive throughout most of Africa.
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Old 12-27-2021, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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First omicron case found in US was a traveler back from South Africa who was fully vaccinated. (no booster)

Omicron is now more than 70% of cases in Israel (nytimes). Yet about 45% have already gotten 3 covid shots. Which means many of the 3 shot cases have omicron. A 4th shot is now being offered.
Yep.

The majority of Israel’s population was fully vaccinated early on. It was Israel who determined the efficacy begins to wane at the 5-6 month mark and was the first to embrace a booster, many of which show waning at the 5-6 month mark, too. So they are now onto shot #4.
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Old 12-27-2021, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Ordered new windows this summer. We were treated to the salesman’s life story and family photos. He’s late 70’s and said healthy as a horse, albeit obviously obese. He chose to not vaccinate, wear a mask, social distance etc because his daughter told him the vaccine was a chip to track him.

Called the shop last week to see if they had an ETA on delivery. Was told he did a few weeks ago. Covid.

The irony. Regardless of vaccine status, the guy was tracked- another Covid fatality.
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Old 12-27-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Nothing new about it.

Very clear from the start, Covid vaccines were not 100% effective, no diff than any other vaccine.

People tend to have selective hearing.
bolded is false. Totally agree people have selective hearing, though. Its an extension of confirmation bias.
Not false.

The predicted effectiveness was published at the time the vaccines were approved for use back under the prior administration. News items reported on it. None of them were predicted to be 100% effective. If anyone thought otherwise they were not paying attention.

Vaccines are effective at
  • reducing the suffering of people who succumb to Covid
  • increasing the speed of recovery of victims of Covid
  • suppressing the rate of spread of Covid

.. for most people who catch it.

This is why the overwhelming number of hospitalizations are of the unvaccinated. Vaccines are still our best defense, but no vaccine is perfect, there never was one that was perfect.
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