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Old 12-24-2021, 05:49 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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What I do not understand is when a drug is advertised on TV it comes with a laundry list of side effects but when the vaccines are talked about there is no mention of side effects only threats that you better get it or else?



What are they hiding? And with hundreds of millions of people now supposedly vaccinated what is going to happen to them when the side effects kick in? Will the clinical trials be made public in 5 years, 10 years? Will the vaccinated then run the risk of debilitating effects and possibly death UNLESS they start taking an expensive drug to offset the effects?

It sounds like a good way for Big Pharm to make Billions..



The OP asks "would they lie to you?" They sure would.
Because before those drugs got approved they went through years, yes years of clinical trials with humans and the recorded all the adverse side effects.

Anyone who took mRNA vaccines is part of that "years and years of clinical trials" from which the warnings will be generated as they gather data on adverse side effects.

That is why you signed those papers before getting vaccinated..you gave your permission.
That is why everyone involved is not liable because of yet unknown side effects.
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Old 12-24-2021, 06:06 PM
 
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CDC Confirms Comirnaty NOT Available In USA, Meaning No FDA-Approved COVID Vax Is Available To Americans

It has never been in production. It was all a trick to fool people into thinking BioNTech was the same as Comirnaty... but it's not. Same formulation, different structure.

I posted that there was virtually no Comirnaty available back in August.
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Old 12-24-2021, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
What I do not understand is when a drug is advertised on TV it comes with a laundry list of side effects but when the vaccines are talked about there is no mention of side effects only threats that you better get it or else?



What are they hiding? And with hundreds of millions of people now supposedly vaccinated what is going to happen to them when the side effects kick in? Will the clinical trials be made public in 5 years, 10 years? Will the vaccinated then run the risk of debilitating effects and possibly death UNLESS they start taking an expensive drug to offset the effects?

It sounds like a good way for Big Pharm to make Billions..



The OP asks "would they lie to you?" They sure would.
We know what they are hiding. The vaccine is destroying the reproductive system in the peasants because the elite want population control.
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Old 12-24-2021, 06:11 PM
 
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This post is full of BS!

First, Comirnaty and BNT162b2 are identical. To say there is no FDA-approved vaccine in the US is FALSE. This bit of nonsense has been batted around since September.

Second, 88% of people in RI have had at least one dose of Covid-19 vaccine. Adjusting for the relative size of the two populations, the vaccinated had 3 deaths per 100,000 and unvaccinated had 19 deaths. That makes the vaccines 85% effective.

Is natural immunity more effective? Very likely. But first you have to get infected, with all the consequences of that. I'd rather not get sick in the first place. After all, natural immunity to smallpox may be better than a vaccine also, but that shouldn't stop you from getting immunized against smallpox.
We went through this in August.

They are NOT the same. Why do you think the CDC made this admission?

Here is their statement on this.

How is Comirnaty (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) related to the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine?

The FDA-approved Comirnaty (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the two EUA authorized formulations of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for ages 12 years and older, when prepared according to their respective instructions for use, can be used interchangeably without presenting any safety or effectiveness concerns. Therefore, providers can use doses distributed under EUA to administer the vaccination series as if the doses were the licensed vaccine. For purposes of administration, doses distributed under the EUA are interchangeable with the licensed doses.


It says they can be used interchangeably without and safety concerns. Does that sound like they are exactly the same?

They can use BioNTech under the EUA as if it was the licensed vaccine... but it isn't.

Comirnaty was never made for mass production because they planned to use the experimental BioNTech and pretend it is the FDA approval vaccine.

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Old 12-24-2021, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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Just how does one acquire, Natural Immunity?
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Old 12-24-2021, 06:59 PM
 
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Because you say so. Or something. (Even though that is specifically addressed in the OP.)





Aw, how cute - you just made up your own stats.


The stats are accounting for people in the hospital, not the entire population of the state.


There are only four hundred something people in the hospital to begin with, and 55 deaths.


So if we pull back, using your logic of state population, we may as well call the entire COVID alarmism utter nonsense - statistically minute.



Agreed?
From the FDA itself, Cominarty is the marketing name for the vaccine formerly known as Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine:

On August 23, 2021, FDA announced the first approval of a COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...vid-19-vaccine
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Old 12-24-2021, 07:00 PM
 
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CDC Confirms Comirnaty NOT Available In USA, Meaning No FDA-Approved COVID Vax Is Available To Americans

It has never been in production. It was all a trick to fool people into thinking BioNTech was the same as Comirnaty... but it's not. Same formulation, different structure.

I posted that there was virtually no Comirnaty available back in August.
Cominarty is the marketing name for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. They are one and the same.
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Old 12-24-2021, 08:30 PM
 
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This post is full of BS!

First, Comirnaty and BNT162b2 are identical. To say there is no FDA-approved vaccine in the US is FALSE. This bit of nonsense has been batted around since September.

Second, 88% of people in RI have had at least one dose of Covid-19 vaccine. Adjusting for the relative size of the two populations, the vaccinated had 3 deaths per 100,000 and unvaccinated had 19 deaths. That makes the vaccines 85% effective.

Is natural immunity more effective? Very likely. But first you have to get infected, with all the consequences of that. I'd rather not get sick in the first place. After all, natural immunity to smallpox may be better than a vaccine also, but that shouldn't stop you from getting immunized against smallpox.
OK I find your post actually reasonable because at least you acknowledge natural immunity. Yes at least you acknowledge it. Lol our government? Won’t even acknowledge it. Now we’re finding out that this newest mild variant, those with all these vaccines are actually more susceptible to it.

I’ve been saying since day one the way out of this pandemic is early treatment at home. With therapeutics. Forget the vaccines that aren’t really vaccines.
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Old 12-24-2021, 08:47 PM
 
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Yeah and the sky is blue, what the hell is your point?


Once again Lefties: This was addressed in the OP. I know you're all narrow-minded authoritarians, but at least learn to read.
Cominarty IS actually available and approved, as is the original technical named product. What's your point? Both are approved, are identical, and are available.

I've been reading a long time, and am pretty good at it.

I am still wondering why people think there is some giant conspiracy around the vaccines. Just get the damn shots. Anyone who doesn't get the shots and doesn't have a medical reason for not taking them, is a fool.
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Old 12-24-2021, 08:50 PM
 
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Cominarty IS actually available and approved, as is the original technical named product. What's your point? Both are approved, are identical, and are available.

I've been reading a long time, and am pretty good at it.

I am still wondering why people think there is some giant conspiracy around the vaccines. Just get the damn shots. Anyone who doesn't get the shots and doesn't have a medical reason for not taking them, is a fool.

Batman 2, where Danny Devito plays the Penguin? Also a Christmas movie.
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