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Old 12-24-2021, 04:14 PM
 
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Per thread title question - yes, but only for non-violent solutions.

 
Old 12-24-2021, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Peaks and valleys. Life is that way, but we grow in the valley's. We're in the valley.

... just sayin'
 
Old 12-24-2021, 04:18 PM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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Doesn't that tell you something? It isn't real. Just something to keep you busy and buying Telsas.

I will say that we have problems that must be addressed and there is danger is not addressing them.... but about 50% of what you listed aren't them.

I would urge you to look into history and see the way things really go... and be forever greatful that you aren't living 300 years ago for example.
300 years ago I'd have been a pirate king!

Or a slave...

Maybe both.
 
Old 12-24-2021, 04:21 PM
 
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Yes.

1. Too much centralization of power. If we went back to a more states' rights framework, there would be a lot less chaos but that isn't going to happen. Coastal elites want to weild the federal government to control the entire country.
2. Smart/accomplished people don't run for office. Just lawyers who've produced nothing of substance.
3. The average American is probably a little more dumb (lazier and fatter as well) than our predescesors.
4. Money printing and too much debt/spending.
 
Old 12-24-2021, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes.

1. Too much centralization of power. If we went back to a more states' rights framework, there would be a lot less chaos but that isn't going to happen. Coastal elites want to weild the federal government to control the entire country.
2. Smart/accomplished people don't run for office. Just lawyers who've produced nothing of substance.
3. The average American is probably a little more dumb (lazier and fatter as well) than our predescesors.
4. Money printing and too much debt/spending.
States need to take it back, the federal guberment won't give it back. See Governor Ron DeSantis for reference.
 
Old 12-24-2021, 04:28 PM
 
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I think part of the problem is large numbers who's ideas of "fixing" things is not a return to 5 years ago, but rather to 1950. A time when racism was rampant, when minorities were subjugated to the whims of the conservative right of the day. When McCarthyism was alive and well.
Personally I think the way history always "moves ahead" and deals with problems is generations dying out. Here I think things will get moving when the boomers die. Boomers have lasted too long -- any doubt that our do nothing congress people are in their 80s???

The boomers will not get off the stage and they have stale ideas. Nothing will change until they are gone. We are getting to a crisis point because they are fighting getting off the stage.

Until then we all suffer in silence. But they only have about 10 more years...
 
Old 12-24-2021, 04:49 PM
 
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Moving away from our founding principles and perverting them along with our moral decay is a surefire recipe for bringing our nation down.
 
Old 12-24-2021, 04:50 PM
 
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Moving away from our founding principles and perverting them along with our moral decay is a surefire recipe for bringing our nation down.
This
 
Old 12-24-2021, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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No. I have never subscribed to the theory that just because things are not going the way I would like or that the "wrong" party is in office that America is broken or needs fixed. Tweaked? Probably, but not broken. That got me through eight years of W. and four years of Trump. Your mileage may vary, but America is still the great country it has been for a long time.
To the anonymous poster who "repped" the above comment with
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Dems are trying to destroy America from within.
Cool story, bro. You totally did not understand what I wrote, but whatever.
 
Old 12-24-2021, 05:18 PM
 
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The more we celebrate dysfunction and failure while demonizing success, the more doomed we become.
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