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Old 12-27-2021, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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The foreign aid is not free money. It's in exchange for agreeing to specific conditions we impose.
So true...like when Joe Biden told the Ukraine that they must fire the prosecutor looking into Hunter Biden's dealings in the Ukraine with the energy company Burisma, who was buying influence & access to Joe through Hunter.

Joe Biden told the Ukraine's President that if the prosecutor wasn't fired, the foreign aid would be withheld.

Then Joe bragged..."I'll be damned, they fired the guy...ha ha ha ha"
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Old 12-27-2021, 12:54 PM
 
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Foreign aid usually involves a tit for tat type agreement that benefits govt or elected officials and their cronies.


There is no direct benefit to govt, in helping the homeless.

Last edited by Raider Scott; 12-27-2021 at 01:04 PM..
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Old 12-27-2021, 12:56 PM
 
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So true...like when Joe Biden told the Ukraine that they must fire the prosecutor looking into Hunter Biden's dealings in the Ukraine with the energy company Burisma, who was buying influence & access to Joe through Hunter.

Joe Biden told the Ukraine's President that if the prosecutor wasn't fired, the foreign aid would be withheld.

Then Joe bragged..."I'll be damned, they fired the guy...ha ha ha ha"

They could have said No and return the aid but you know politics works on both sides.


I had no problem with what Biden did because that's how governments work especially dealing with super corrupt countries former Soviets, they only understand this kind of politics. I have a problem with the hypocrisy the Democrats play. What Trump did is impeachable and what Biden did, well crickets from the same people.


Why a phone call is impeachable and what other Presidents and VP have done that are much deeper and in some cases resulted in many deaths is acceptable as the norm? I just hate the hypocrisy and fake people and that part of our politics. Do what you have to do, bend but not break to get others to do what We want but stop playing this moral high horse b.s. that We don't put weight on other countries to make them do what We want. We have done this all the time and so has other countries.
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Old 12-27-2021, 01:11 PM
 
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Mental health and drug addiction needs to be addressed but also cola is out of wack. Who holds the strings ??


https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/p...ring?_amp=true


But, we've done a pathetic job of building the homes that are affordable to the people working at or near minimum wage."

https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/hom...-estate-market

But liberals control all the inner cities that homeless is out of control. What policies will raise taxes and raise the cost of living above the opposition? Liberal or Conservative? Have you try renting an apt. in these cities? why is that? Why liberal policies has raised the cost of living so high?
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Old 12-27-2021, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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But liberals control all the inner cities that homeless is out of control. What policies will raise taxes and raise the cost of living above the opposition? Liberal or Conservative? Have you try renting an apt. in these cities? why is that? Why liberal policies has raised the cost of living so high?
Cities don’t collect taxes. They collect fines and permits other local fees etc. In Fl the county determines that. The free market can be somewhat controlled by the state. Incentives cuts etc. The city or township is limited on those changes.
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Old 12-27-2021, 02:42 PM
 
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Cities don’t collect taxes. They collect fines and permits other local fees etc. In Fl the county determines that. The free market can be somewhat controlled by the state. Incentives cuts etc. The city or township is limited on those changes.

They don't? Liberal cities have lots of control especially in cities like San Francisco, Seattle, Los Angeles and NYC. They set policies and collect taxes and add state taxes from sales tax, income, property tax and it's a lot. Plus, most of these cities are controlled by then Democrats as a state level. California, New York, Washington,D.C. and the rest. They have the worst cases of homeless.
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Old 12-27-2021, 03:24 PM
 
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Treatments that may cure PTSD, depression, and anxiety are being worked on through the administration of psychedelics while undergoing therapy. This is a great source of information for that;

https://maps.org/

The administration of MDMA (just 3 times) while undergoing therapy has a very high cure rate in clinical trails.
PTSD is not a mental illness. It's a psychological injury. What happened to the person is permanent.
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Old 12-27-2021, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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They don't? Liberal cities have lots of control especially in cities like San Francisco, Seattle, Los Angeles and NYC. They set policies and collect taxes and add state taxes from sales tax, income, property tax and it's a lot. Plus, most of these cities are controlled by then Democrats as a state level. California, New York, Washington,D.C. and the rest. They have the worst cases of homeless.
In Fl it’s the county. They hold the money strings in accordance with other state laws that are passed. One reason Miami broke up into so many towns. They get one chunk of money and many areas got nothing. Fire n police departments stretched too far. I don’t know about other cities collecting taxes more than what I stated. DiSantis cut the counties school budget with the masks debate. Edu is state money regardless of county. Why do we have substandard schools in one area and not another ?
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Old 12-27-2021, 03:53 PM
 
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In Fl it’s the county. They hold the money strings in accordance with other state laws that are passed. One reason Miami broke up into so many towns. They get one chunk of money and many areas got nothing. Fire n police departments stretched too far. I don’t know about other cities collecting taxes more than what I stated. DiSantis cut the counties school budget with the masks debate. Edu is state money regardless of county. Why do we have substandard schools in one area and not another ?

ok, you are just talking about Florida. The top states/FD of homeless in the nation are California, Hawaii, New York and DC. All very liberal states. It's obvious liberalism hasn't fix the problem, it made it worse. It's a lot cheaper to rent and buy in Florida than California, New York and Hawaii in comparison.


Florida is 70% to 182% lower to rent than California
Florida is 145% lower to rent than NYC
Florida is 45% to 65% lower to rent than Hawaii.
Florida is 45% to 70% lower to rent than D.C.


Add that Florida doesn't have state income tax and liberal states taxes are high. If you think conservative state governments are bad over cost of living or housing then liberal states are a lot worse and out of control and their progressive policies doesn't help, it makes it a lot worse.


You want to convert Florida into a progressive state and expect different results from the blue cities and states?
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Old 12-27-2021, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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But, we've done a pathetic job of building the homes that are affordable to the people working at or near minimum wage.
It isn't the job of government, any government, to "build homes that are affordable" and certainly not for people "at or near minimum wage". When I worked at minimum wage (or near to it) jobs, I lived at home or had roommates.

Somehow this mythology has been created that a minimum wage job should be able to support a family of four and that the hourly wage pool is largely at minimum wage. Both are completely false. As of 2020 (last year of available data) there were 73.3 million hourly wage earners, only 1.1 million earn the minimum wage. That is 1.5%. Half of them (529k) are under age 25.

Many government zoning laws are the cause higher housing costs. Silly restrictions, like banning natural gas for stoves, heaters and water heaters; banning door knobs; requiring solar panels; raising permit costs; requiring developers to make a percent of units "affordable" (all that does is drive up the other unit's cost and other units in the area); and on and on.

But all that is incidental, over 80% of the homeless problem has zip to do with housing costs.

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Cities don’t collect taxes. They collect fines and permits other local fees etc. In Fl the county determines that. The free market can be somewhat controlled by the state. Incentives cuts etc. The city or township is limited on those changes.
Many cities collect income tax; NYC is as high as almost 4%, then there are sales taxes, NYC adds on 4.5% sales tax on top of the state sales tax. Many cities collect taxes like that.
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