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View Poll Results: Do you feel that you have experienced voter suppression?
Yes 22 17.60%
No 103 82.40%
Voters: 125. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-28-2021, 08:00 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Originally Posted by YourWakeUpCall View Post
Well, that really isn't a thing. That Kool-Aid you liberals drink must be delicious.
I started the thread because I don't believe that existing voter laws are racist, and that it's being used for political reasons.

 
Old 12-28-2021, 08:08 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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When I was in my early 20s I had a very long commute - about 2 hours each way. At that time there was no early voting or mail in voting. I was registered based on where I lived and had to head to my job before the polls opened. I was getting home right around the time they closed. Sometimes I made it, sometimes I didn't. I couldn't afford to take a half day off to vote, and in hindsight I don't think it's fair to expect someone to do that. I made it in time maybe 2/3 of the time, running in to the polling place as one of the last people of the night. Other times I didn't make it.
But do you think you were singled out because of racism?

I have been lucky enough to always have been near voting sites, often being at the end of my street. I don't have a problem with that, more available voting sites. I have a problem with not having to show ID, signatures not having to match, non-citizens being able to vote, etc. Here in California, we voted without being asked for our ID. I'm against that.
 
Old 12-29-2021, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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But do you think you were singled out because of racism?

I have been lucky enough to always have been near voting sites, often being at the end of my street. I don't have a problem with that, more available voting sites. I have a problem with not having to show ID, signatures not having to match, non-citizens being able to vote, etc. Here in California, we voted without being asked for our ID. I'm against that.
Racism was not part of your original question, which I quoted in full.

No, I didn't think it was racism, but there is no doubt that the way voting happened during the time I described had disparate impacts on those races that had to travel farther for work. I don't think it was done with the intention of suppressing votes, but with the ignorance that some have not recognizing that not everyone has a situation that makes it easy to vote in a one-day 7am=7pm voting window.
 
Old 12-29-2021, 05:42 AM
 
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No. But I'm a white male who's mostly voted in small towns. I don't have to show ID or anything. Just give them a name and they give me a ballot. Some times they don't even check the voter roll.
 
Old 12-29-2021, 06:41 AM
 
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Suppression, no. Manipulation through conservative gerrymandering, yes.
Suppression, no. Manipulation through LIBERAL gerrymandering, yes.
 
Old 12-29-2021, 06:43 AM
 
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Ya I have a felony for 2nd DUI and can't vote. Who is really "Drunk" at .08 BAC ? I was exactly .08

I did not hurt anyone and every bar every night a million people do the same thing every day its not like I did anything unusual and that was a long time ago I quit drinking years ago. Middle aged people make different choices then 20 somethings but this **** sticks for life.
Sorry but, that is NOT "suppression".

You FREELY BROKE A LAW!

Don't like it, work to get the law changed!
 
Old 12-29-2021, 06:47 AM
 
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I should have pointed out that Maryland doesn't make ID mandatory to vote. The decision to request it rests with the individual poll worker.
"Maryland doesn't make ID mandatory to vote."

One of the MANY reason why I left!

NO wonder it stays a dem run state!

The "free sate", what a JOKE!
 
Old 12-29-2021, 06:47 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Racism was not part of your original question, which I quoted in full.

No, I didn't think it was racism, but there is no doubt that the way voting happened during the time I described had disparate impacts on those races that had to travel farther for work. I don't think it was done with the intention of suppressing votes, but with the ignorance that some have not recognizing that not everyone has a situation that makes it easy to vote in a one-day 7am=7pm voting window.
In the aggregate how many people does that window really impact? Likely not enough to even be considered rounding error. I also have had similar jobs and always managed to vote, absentee is always an option.

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No. But I'm a white male who's mostly voted in small towns. I don't have to show ID or anything. Just give them a name and they give me a ballot. Some times they don't even check the voter roll.

As am I. Go back to my first post and see the difference between our experiences.
 
Old 12-29-2021, 06:50 AM
 
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I admit I am not knowledgeable on all the specifics, but does this mean you don't vote? Again, $25.00 plus $6.25 is too much for people to save up for? Seriously, if I actually knew someone who were so poor that they couldn't save up this amount of money over a certain period of time, I would pay it for them. I just can't see that scenario happening.

I do appreciate your response, though. That's one reason so far. Thank you.
"if I actually knew someone who were so poor that they couldn't save up this amount of money over a certain period of time, I would pay it for them."

You should first find out what they DO spend their money on!
 
Old 12-29-2021, 06:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by 16 Acres View Post
People never have any trouble going to Wal-Mart, but can't get to the polls without some kind of "problem".

And then they call it "suppression".
And those so "poor" keep the liquor stores, that also sell cigarettes, open.
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