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Old 12-27-2021, 10:40 AM
 
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I just read a story reposted on Yahoo by a covid ICU nurse. Her comments struck home. She said she didn't know how many patients had died on her ward, but she could count on her fingers the number who survived after intubation.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-nurs...111507829.html

These unvaccvinated covid deniers are selfishly and needlessly hogging the resources and destroying our medical system. They are needlessly putting our limited medical workers at risk and burning them out. Gawd forbid you get in a car accident these days, or cancer.

Anyone who has taken every reasonable precaution to avoid getting sick (i.e. the vaccinated) should receive priority care. I can no longer support wasting our limited resources on those who refuse to cooperate. Especially when it is free. Such people are a danger to society and are the direct cause of this disease continuing to infect the population.

Those who are trying to migigate their risk are not getting the treatments and access to the drugs they need to avoid the ICU. It is time to start moving the unvaccinated who are sick into a parallel system where they can still receive treatment as excess drugs are available. It is time to start saving the ICU's for those with traditional medical issues or who are vaccinated.

The current system is unfair. To quote "Mr. Spock," "The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few."

It is time to triage the unvaccinated.
I hope you are ready for alot of hate.

I can't get behind denying the best care available to any group of people.

Getting vaccinated was the best choice for me. Even if I think you are foolish, you get to make your own choice.
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Old 12-27-2021, 10:41 AM
 
Location: NY
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"People who don't take ALL necessary measures to remain healthy should be denied health care." Sure okay. See how that works. Everyone go look in the mirror, and get back to me. Right off the bat, I know most of you won't make the cut due to being overweight.
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Old 12-27-2021, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Originally Posted by jamies View Post
I just read a story reposted on Yahoo by a covid ICU nurse. Her comments struck home. She said she didn't know how many patients had died on her ward, but she could count on her fingers the number who survived after intubation.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-nurs...111507829.html

These unvaccvinated covid deniers are selfishly and needlessly hogging the resources and destroying our medical system. They are needlessly putting our limited medical workers at risk and burning them out. Gawd forbid you get in a car accident these days, or cancer.

Anyone who has taken every reasonable precaution to avoid getting sick (i.e. the vaccinated) should receive priority care. I can no longer support wasting our limited resources on those who refuse to cooperate. Especially when it is free. Such people are a danger to society and are the direct cause of this disease continuing to infect the population.

Those who are trying to migigate their risk are not getting the treatments and access to the drugs they need to avoid the ICU. It is time to start moving the unvaccinated who are sick into a parallel system where they can still receive treatment as excess drugs are available. It is time to start saving the ICU's for those with traditional medical issues or who are vaccinated.

The current system is unfair. To quote "Mr. Spock," "The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few."

It is time to triage the unvaccinated.
And how do you propose to do this? You going to start booting doors in?
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Old 12-27-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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Should we apply this type of thinking across the board. For instance the majority of Social Welfare in this country is going to the same groups generation after generation. Perhaps forcible sterilization should be used to end this cycle and save those precious resources for those who become disabled, have mental issues or temporarily fall on hard times instead of supporting generations of the same families who have developed lifestyles dependent on the Government Dole.
It is a problem that non achievers are out breeding achievers by a significant margin.
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Old 12-27-2021, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Should we apply this type of thinking across the board. For instance the majority of Social Welfare in this country is going to the same groups generation after generation. Perhaps forcible sterilization should be used to end this cycle and save those precious resources for those who become disabled, have mental issues or temporarily fall on hard times instead of supporting generations of the same families who have developed lifestyles dependent on the Government Dole.
Excellent idea. Someone noted below that this would also eliminate a lot of crime. I say let’s do it.
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Old 12-27-2021, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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Not vaxed(Im not anti vax, though. Make your own health decision for yourself and I will make mine). Got covid for roughly a week. 1 day really sucked. Did not even go to the hospital. Only time I left the house(after I figured something was up) was to go do my test at CVS(which was a formality at that point since I know my body and knew what was up by then). Did not die. Everyones case will be different, some will die, the majority will recover.

This talk of concentration camps is scary, are we living in 1940s Europe?

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It is a problem that non achievers are out breeding achievers by a significant margin.
Exactly as documented in Idiocracy. Art imitating real life or real life imitating art?
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Old 12-27-2021, 10:55 AM
 
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I just read a story reposted on Yahoo by a covid ICU nurse. Her comments struck home. She said she didn't know how many patients had died on her ward, but she could count on her fingers the number who survived after intubation.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-nurs...111507829.html

These unvaccvinated covid deniers are selfishly and needlessly hogging the resources and destroying our medical system. They are needlessly putting our limited medical workers at risk and burning them out. Gawd forbid you get in a car accident these days, or cancer.

Anyone who has taken every reasonable precaution to avoid getting sick (i.e. the vaccinated) should receive priority care. I can no longer support wasting our limited resources on those who refuse to cooperate. Especially when it is free. Such people are a danger to society and are the direct cause of this disease continuing to infect the population.

Those who are trying to migigate their risk are not getting the treatments and access to the drugs they need to avoid the ICU. It is time to start moving the unvaccinated who are sick into a parallel system where they can still receive treatment as excess drugs are available. It is time to start saving the ICU's for those with traditional medical issues or who are vaccinated.

The current system is unfair. To quote "Mr. Spock," "The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few."

It is time to triage the unvaccinated.
I notice you haven’t been back here to comment on your post or the other posters’ reactions and comments. Yeah, it’s hard to defend hate I guess.
How stupid can people get.
Amazing how twisted minds have become.
Good luck.
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Old 12-27-2021, 10:59 AM
 
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Cool, while we are at it, no more ER healthcare for illegals and the smokers/obese. Let's also not forget to throw illegal drug users and felons into this group and we don't need to treat prisoners either.
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Old 12-27-2021, 11:02 AM
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Cool, while we are at it, no more ER healthcare for illegals and the smokers/obese. Let's also not forget to throw illegal drug users and felons into this group and we don't need to treat prisoners either.
You forgot unmarried pregnant women.
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Old 12-27-2021, 11:03 AM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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Well, we got about the responses I expected. Most clearly did not read the article.

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And how do you propose to do this? You going to start booting doors in?
Yeah, where did you read where I suggested that? I simply said that the vaccinated and people with other diseases should get priority.

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Not vaxxed.
Got Covid.
Did not die.
Sorry, the "they are causing all the Covid deaths" line just does not apply to everyone.
Clearly you did not read. I and the article were talking about people in ICU on life support. Were you intubated? If so great for you. You seem proud of not being vaccinated Thanks for taking resources from others.

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First we need to deal with the smokers and obese.
Then we can move onto the unvaccinated.
You have a point and I agree. I was 90 lbs overweight when this started. I've lost 50 and I'm not happy about plateauing and not getting the rest off. But I am redoubling my efforts and I WILL be back or close to my Army weight by summer if it can improve my chances of not dying and leaving my family alone.

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Not vaxed(Im not anti vax, though. Make your own health decision for yourself and I will make mine). Got covid for roughly a week. 1 day really sucked. Did not even go to the hospital. Only time I left the house(after I figured something was up) was to go do my test at CVS(which was a formality at that point since I know my body and knew what was up by then). Did not die. Everyones case will be different, some will die, the majority will recover.
So - you EXPOSED how many people going into CVS to get tested while passing ACTIVE COVID? Did you wear a mask, gloves? THIS is the inconsideration I'm talking about. Though the government should be holding drive up tests like they used to. I hadn't thought about the infected needing to go to pharmacies.

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