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Old 12-28-2021, 03:34 PM
 
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Nothing really but I guess ohioaninsc is right.... (Maybe it will make the parents/others more aware)
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Old 12-28-2021, 03:40 PM
 
Location: New England
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This could have been prevented by a $20.00 lock box. When my son was small I made sure every firearm was in the gunsafe. If any of his friends were nosing around the safe, they were not asked back.
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Old 12-28-2021, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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This could have been prevented by a $20.00 lock box. When my son was small I made sure every firearm was in the gunsafe. If any of his friends were nosing around the safe, they were not asked back.
Well, the gun was left on top of a gun safe, so chances are they would not have used a lock box anyway
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What does charging the parents accomplish that losing a son hasn't already done?
Hopefully makes other gun owners think twice before leaving their loaded guns lying around where kids can get to them
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Old 12-28-2021, 04:06 PM
 
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Hopefully makes other gun owners think twice before leaving their loaded guns lying around where kids can get to them
Motivation A:

Leave gun around and your child might die

Motivation B:

Leave gun around and you might go to jail


I'd argue that if A doesn't get someone to be responsible with their firearm that B will likely have even less effect.
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Old 12-28-2021, 04:12 PM
 
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I like to see parents being charged for every drowning incident happened at home.

For children under 14, home swimming pools are a far more dangerous threat.
It has happened. Parents have been charged as to pool negligence.

"FORT PIERCE — A Port St. Lucie man was spared prison time Monday after pleading no contest to aggravated manslaughter of a child in connection with the April 19 drowning of his 9-year-old son, Assistant State Attorney Linda Baldree confirmed. Instead of facing up to 30 years of incarceration, Gareth Grant, 33, entered into a negotiated plea deal with prosecutors that requires he serve one year of community control and five years of probation. He was given credit for 61 days he spent in the St. Lucie County Jail following his arrest in May.

Grant’s son, who police said had been diagnosed with autism, died after being pulled from the bottom of a swimming pool at the family’s home in the 2100 block of Southeast Bisbee Street, records show. At the time, police said, investigators learned Grant was at home with his son and two younger daughters. He was accused of not properly supervising the boy and had left open a back door that led to the pool, according to an arrest affidavit. The child was taken to a hospital in critical condition but died several days later.

Baldree said Grant was further ordered to attend parenting classes, complete a water safety course and install a safety fence around his pool."

https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/cr...on/8630571002/
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Old 12-28-2021, 04:15 PM
 
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Well, the gun was left on top of a gun safe, so chances are they would not have used a lock box anyway

Hopefully makes other gun owners think twice before leaving their loaded guns lying around where kids can get to them
did it deter this gun owner?
“Hey hon we better lock the guns up so we don't go to prison if the kids decide to shoot each other” - said no gun owner ever
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Old 12-28-2021, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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did it deter this gun owner?
“Hey hon we better lock the guns up so we don't go to prison if the kids decide to shoot each other” - said no gun owner ever
That seems to be obvious in this point. Seems like a parent would be smarter than to leave a gun out around their kids, but we keep seing these types of news stories. Sad

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Motivation A:

Leave gun around and your child might die

Motivation B:

Leave gun around and you might go to jail


I'd argue that if A doesn't get someone to be responsible with their firearm that B will likely have even less effect.
Fair point
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Old 12-28-2021, 04:20 PM
 
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Was the 13 year old suffering from mental health issues that his parents were aware of? Did the 13 year old ever threaten his brother before?

Unless there is some sort of grave negligence here I'm not seeing the parents getting convicted. It sounds like this was an accident although I would have to know more about why the 13 year tried to scare his 5 year old brother like that. The whole thing doesn't make much sense.
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Old 12-28-2021, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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unless one can quickly access a gun, its useless for self-defence....i have been robbed delivering pizza and it so fast


that ir seems like a movie as Andy Warhol said...imprtant people have whole security details, yet assassinations happen
Need a gun for delivering pizza, really remote odds on that happening but I wouldn't want to work in that area. Rather weird needing an everyday carry gun unless he is LE or security but leaving a loaded gun where kids can access it is a big mistake.
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Old 12-28-2021, 05:05 PM
 
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Was the 13 year old suffering from mental health issues that his parents were aware of? Did the 13 year old ever threaten his brother before?

Unless there is some sort of grave negligence here I'm not seeing the parents getting convicted. It sounds like this was an accident although I would have to know more about why the 13 year tried to scare his 5 year old brother like that. The whole thing doesn't make much sense.
Pulling the trigger on a gun is never an accident.
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