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Old 01-01-2022, 07:42 AM
 
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Governor of IL? Liberal? There's your answer. The Liberal states are lying along with our liberal government. Fear = Control = Power. Hell the President lies through his teeth constantly, not one of the liberal media calls him out.
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Old 01-01-2022, 07:45 AM
 
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Unvaccinated includes those who have the initial 'dose' of vaccine.

I guess they are the problem, too.

What number of booster shots makes someone 'not a problem' when seeking healthcare for illness? At what stage of vaccination should the shaming stop?
Of course vaccination status, including full and up to date status, is now a more complicated and evolving metric.

My impression is that the bulk of those counted as unvaccinated so far are at zero jabs.
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Old 01-01-2022, 08:15 AM
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6000+ hospitals in the US. No two are reporting the same experience.

No question, some ERs in some hospitals are overwhelmed with people seeking tests or presenting with mild Covid or flu symptoms and most expect immediate attention.

Some is not all.
I don’t know of any hospital that has run out of room in the ICU.
I don’t know of any that have bodies stacked up at the curb.
Any of the above and it would be front page news on steroids.
It would be bigger news than the virus itself.
Some have suspended elective or non-essential surgeries and treatments like boob jobs, lypo, and facelifts. As “precautions”.
Which makes no sense because those have nothing to do with the ICU or ER, or even the same staff.
It’s hysteria and fear.
Just like the hospital ships & tents and ventilator apocalypse of 2020, that were never utilized…
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Old 01-01-2022, 08:45 AM
 
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I don't know her personally but a neighbor's husband was not allowed to stay overnight after a heart surgery because they didn't have enough beds due to Covid patients.
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Old 01-02-2022, 07:20 AM
 
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Everything reported by posters as personal experience here is anecdotal, so here's another anecdote:

Family member with broken shoulder, lay in a sideroom off ER lobby for 6 hours on a gurney because no beds. A whole floor had been given over to Covid thereby squeezing everyone else into what room was left.

It's real, folks. Please stop denying it.
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Old 01-02-2022, 07:26 AM
 
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Everything reported by posters as personal experience here is anecdotal, so here's another anecdote:

Family member with broken shoulder, lay in a sideroom off ER lobby for 6 hours on a gurney because no beds. A whole floor had been given over to Covid thereby squeezing everyone else into what room was left.

It's real, folks. Please stop denying it.
Um no. That's the hospital being incompetent.
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Old 01-02-2022, 07:30 AM
 
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Um no. That's the hospital being incompetent.
How on earth can you say that? What do you mean? It's being incompetent to isolate Covid patients on a floor by themselves? Or that they don't have a big enough establishment to accommodate everyone? Please explain.
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Old 01-02-2022, 07:42 AM
 
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I’ve heard this from our governer in IL and others as well as dr’s on tv but then a few nurses and dr’s I know say the ER’s are not overwhelmed with Covid patients. What is the truth? Would dr’s on tv outright lie? Are they misinformed. Are the people I know experiencing something different depending on the hospital?
Of course they would lie, most Dr’s are in it for the money and covid gets them a nice little bonus
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Old 01-02-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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How on earth can you say that? What do you mean? It's being incompetent to isolate Covid patients on a floor by themselves? Or that they don't have a big enough establishment to accommodate everyone? Please explain.
It's on them to figure out how to deliver an acceptable standard of care for everyone who walks through their doors.

If they can't do that with a blank check from the government, I would suggest the monkeys running the hospital find something else to do because their talents are clearly not suited for the management of a hospital.
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:03 AM
 
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Of course they would lie, most Dr’s are in it for the money and covid gets them a nice little bonus
The Pandemic has been a serious financial downer for most docs. Down roughly 20% on more typical revenues, they have started to catch up. The ones working crazy ICU shifts have made good money doing their best in saving lives. A few locums have made killings. More common in the nursing fields.
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