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Old 01-24-2022, 09:12 AM
 
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You are using purposefully vague words to justify specific things you agree with. Anyone else can do the same. Why specifically a wall to protect borders? Where does it say a wall must be built - why not something else? One *could* say that welfare is protecting life or even property because it *may* keep starving people from stealing from property owners. And some people feel that they shouldn't pay for public schools - if you have kids you are responsible for educating them; same with roads. Why should everyone be forced to pay for roads in states they don't live in - hey and how did the government get the property for those interstates anyway?
The US Constitution was written in the context of Natural Law. Claude Frédéric Bastiat explains it here:

The Law, by Claude Frédéric Bastiat https://mises.org/library/law

Here is Natural in a nutshell:

'The Philosophy of Liberty' ~by Ken Schoolland,

This philosophy is based on the principle of self-ownership.

You own your life.

To deny this is to imply that another person has a higher claim on your life than you have.

No other person, or group of persons, owns your life nor do you own the lives of others.

You exist in time: future, present, and past.

This is manifest in life, liberty, and the product of your life and
liberty.

The exercise of choices over life and liberty is your prosperity.

To lose your life is to lose your future.

To lose your liberty is to lose your present.

And to lose the product of your life and liberty is to lose that portion of your past that produced it.

A product of your life and liberty is your property.

Property is the fruit of your labor, the product of your time, energy, and talents.

Property is that part of nature which you turn to valuable use.

Property is the property of others that is given to you by voluntary exchange and mutual consent.

Two people who exchange property voluntarily are both better off or they wouldn’t do it.

Only they may rightfully make that decision for themselves.

At times some people use force or fraud to take from others without willful, voluntary consent.

The initiation of force or fraud to take life is murder, to take liberty is slavery, and to take property is theft.

It is the same whether these actions are done by one person acting alone, by the many acting against the few, or even by officials with fine hats.

You have the right to protect your own life, liberty, and justly acquired property from the forceful aggression of others. And you may ask others to help defend you. But you do not have a right to initiate force against the life, liberty, or property of others. Thus, you have no right to designate some person to initiate force against others on your behalf.

You have a right to seek leaders for yourself, but you have no right to impose rulers on others.

No matter how officials are selected, they are only human beings and they have no rights or claims that are higher than those of any other human beings.

Regardless of the imaginative labels for their behavior or the numbers of people encouraging them, officials have no right to murder, to enslave, or to steal.

You cannot give them any rights that you do not have yourself.

Since you own your life, you are responsible for your life.

You do not rent your life from others who demand your obedience. Nor are you a slave to others who demand your sacrifice.

You choose your own goals based on your own values.

Success and failure are both the necessary incentives
to learn and to grow.

Your action on behalf of others, or their action on behalf of you, is only virtuous when it is derived from voluntary, mutual consent. For virtue can only exist when there is free choice.

This is the basis of a truly free society. It is not only the most practical and humanitarian foundation for human action; it is also the most ethical.

Problems in the world that arise from the initiation of force by government have a solution.

The solution is for people of the world to STOP asking officials to initiate force on their behalf.

Evil does not arise only from evil people, but also from good people who tolerate the initiation of force as a means to their own ends. In this manner, good people have empowered evil throughout history.

Having confidence in a free society is to focus on the process of discovery in the marketplace of values rather than to focus on some imposed vision or goal.

Using governmental force to impose a vision on others is intellectual sloth and typically results in unintended, perverse consequences.

Achieving the free society
requires courage to think, to talk, and to act — especially when it is easier to do nothing.

~Ken Schoolland

'The Philosophy of Liberty' translated into 46 languages https://www.jonathangullible.com/


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M9srplWe_QQ



Matt Kibbe says it more concisely:
"DONT HURT OTHER PEOPLE AND DON'T TAKE THEIR STUFF"

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Old 01-24-2022, 09:26 AM
 
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This philosophy is based on the principle of self-ownership.
i thought this thread was heading down the "sovereign citizen" rabbit hole.
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