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Old 01-04-2022, 12:37 AM
 
Location: HONOLULU
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China. Run by the CCP. But the business side of the economy is run by smarter people. The smarter ones are the billionaire businessmen in China. But this country is still a communist country. Public land ownership. The businessmen owns the land, but leasing it or renting it to the public. That is how the businessmen gets rich in China. It's not a democracy there. The land is owned by rich people and owning everything including their subjects, the renters. And the CCP is the government. They take anything they need. But mainly let the business people run the show. There is no democracy there. Tiananmen square 1989 is a good example of the people wanting democracy. Thousand died then in the name of fighting for democracy.
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Old 01-04-2022, 05:20 AM
 
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My grandfather went to the 8th grade. He supported 11 kids. and some grandkids. He also was the most knowledgable person reading how governments work that I ever knew.

Current events the last year have created many new government watching citizens. The issue is, they started spouting off before they knew the drill.

The federal government giveaways are a real concern. We all see problems with legislation. The ability to think through all the what if we do this or that pros and cons has been stopped since neither party will co operate and compromise.

I can see where parents need help with childcare if we expect everybody to be employed. But I see the USA turning into Romania with throwaway children if we just give parents money for each kid.

Issues like this need deep and wide discussion before pending legislation is signed into law. Enough of this my team can do nothing wrong, yours can do nothing right.
"My grandfather went to the 8th grade."
Had a copy of an 8th grade test from way back when.

Today's high school grads couldn't pass it! Many college grads also.
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Old 01-04-2022, 05:37 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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16 Woke socialist hells and 35 Kochotopia Gilded age Brazils.
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Old 01-04-2022, 05:39 AM
 
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"My grandfather went to the 8th grade."
Had a copy of an 8th grade test from way back when.

Today's high school grads couldn't pass it! Many college grads also.
Could be because even when I went to school the teachers were from the top 10% of their class. Now they are all from the bottom 10%. And at that time there was no education major.

IIRC, most people ended their schooling at 8th grade. The well off could continue to high school and college.

The one thing I do remember is that most everybody I came into contact with knew how governments worked. I never heard of lobbyists. Every congress person came home to the district and made the rounds of all the civic lunch clubs and union halls. They had to explain proposed legislation, including all the pros and cons of each alternative.People were looking for solutions, not someone to blame.

Now they all just cater to their own teams and the ignore the rest of their constituents. IMO, that's what is doing the dividing. Most people are reasonable. If they got the straight story perhaps all this rancor could be stopped.
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Old 01-04-2022, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Just follow the constitution.
Feds take care of border, military, foreign THREATS. Period.
Everything else is up to the states and local government.
What’s good for NYC may not be good for Bozeman Montana.
And vice versa.
^^^^This. The Federal Government and COURTS have abused the Constitution. It is meaningless to these Royals.
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