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Old 01-06-2022, 06:10 AM
 
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How do you figure it was "related" you mean someone died within a few days up to 30 days after taking the vaccine you automatically assume it was the vaccine was the cause? That's like saying far less people died from Covid because that person just happened to be covid positive when they died of something else.

It's "related" because it fits the criteria defined by the VAERS system itself. Why ask/require this information if you are going to ignore it out of hand?
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Old 01-06-2022, 06:11 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Anyone see her on Tim Pool's show last night? She is not the nutjob the media is telling us she is.
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Old 01-06-2022, 06:15 AM
 
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It wasn't that she cited VAERS statistics. It's that she lied about the statistics.



Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account

THEN IT NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED! Why is that being treated like the elephant in the room? Maybe that was her point in bringing it up. The very fact that there are tons of reports THAT ARE UNVERIFIED is the problem.
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Old 01-06-2022, 06:17 AM
 
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None of those deaths have been verified. Anybody can report them.

My Mom Dad in December -- I could post she died of COVID...no proof required.

See how that works.

Anybody who had a vaccine. Why would THEY lie? They are obviously pro-vaxxers. Or were.
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Old 01-06-2022, 06:17 AM
 
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It wasn't that she cited VAERS statistics. It's that she lied about the statistics.

Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account
Why isn't the MSM shut down every time they harp and yell and yammer and screech that we are all going to die of COVID?

That's misleading.
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Old 01-06-2022, 06:22 AM
 
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As stated before, I had a conversation in a thread based around the 2019 measles outbreak where a nurse said VAERS was under reported and that doctors apparently frowned on reporting vaccine injuries when I showed how rare they were on VAERS. Now VAERS is supposed to be trusted because of how many cases are reported. It either is or it isn't. There is no middle ground. It cannot be used only when convenient to the antivax community. The problem I have with VAERS is that there is no way to prove that person was indeed sick or injured from the vaccine. It just shows the number of reports.

They may frown on it but they are required by law to make the reports.


It's not the job of VAERS to verify the reports are cases caused by the vaccine. That is the CDC's job. THAT is the missing step that is being criticized. Unverified VAERS reports are all we have to go by. Why won't they prove them wrong?


This "age old reporting system" was good enough before covid.
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Old 01-06-2022, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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They may frown on it but they are required by law to make the reports.


It's not the job of VAERS to verify the reports are cases caused by the vaccine. That is the CDC's job. THAT is the missing step that is being criticized. Unverified VAERS reports are all we have to go by. Why won't they prove them wrong?


This "age old reporting system" was good enough before covid.
But to the antivax arguments it isn't. Before COVID, VAERS was under reported so we can't take it seriously. Now with COVID, the numbers "are high" and we should take it seriously. I can't make this mental gymnastics up. I've seen it and anyone who participated in the MMR vaccine thread remembers it too.
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