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Old 01-06-2022, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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And they aren’t the only ones

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/c...mote-learning/

This is all on Fauci and his fearmongering and for Biden for not standing up to the Covid doom mongers
Red pilling more and more people, that is what the demented acts by the Democrats are doing
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:31 AM
 
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Do the Catholic schools exist in a bubble? Why would you assume those teachers and staff are going to make it through the next month without enough getting sick to render operations impossible?
The only bubble that exists is in the minds of the Chicago Terrorist Union members that are destroying the educations of hundreds of thousands of kids in the City. Catholic schools are open and operating in town.
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:31 AM
 
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Do the Catholic schools exist in a bubble? Why would you assume those teachers and staff are going to make it through the next month without enough getting sick to render operations impossible?
Why would they be getting sick? The vaccines work, right? The science as referenced by the mayor, the superintendent, Fauci, Biden - all say schools should be open and safe.

Where is the science in the teachers not doing their job?
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I love how you keep telling the same story as if it's something the parents should care about. Guess what, everyone is short on good people.

The schools' failure to adequately staff its classrooms is not the parents' problem. It's on the state and the school to figure out how to deliver the service they sold the parents, which includes in-person instruction, or pay for an alternative provider. Taxpayers should be getting a prorated refund on their property/school taxes for every single day of instruction not delivered in person.
Easier said than done.

As I understand it, most labor contracts were revised in 2020 to count remote learning.

Most remote teaching is originated from the classroom, not from the homes of teachers. Lessons learned in early 2000.

Most labor contracts provide for employee sick time. Look what happened with commercial airline employee shortages, over the holidays. This impacted global airlines and resulted in the cancellation of tens of thousands of flights.

Private schools are facing similar staffing challenges, too.
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:33 AM
 
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Why would they be getting sick? The vaccines work, right? The science as referenced by the mayor, the superintendent, Fauci, Biden - all say schools should be open and safe.

Where is the science in the teachers not doing their job?
The Chicago Terrorist Union does not believe in science. It also openly promotes racism.
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:42 AM
 
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How many parents here are volunteering to substitute teach during this surge? You know there aren't enough teachers or subs to fill in for classes. You can complain about students not getting in-person instruction because their teachers dare stay home when ill, or you can do something about it. What are you doing?


PS - Asking for money back is silly, unless parents plan on returning all the tax benefits that people who do not have children pay for to subsidize your family.
Many parents can’t sign up to sub because they have to get their own kids to and from school and a sub schedule doesn’t allow parents the time to do that as they have to be at the school prior to it starting and up until it ends. Parents would have to pay someone else to drive their own kids to and from school and for pre and post school care. Many parents work so they can’t be available to sub. Parents also have to stay home with their own kids when they are remote or if they have little kids.

Blaming parents for this is the weakest argument I see over and over from people and almost always for people who don’t have kids of their own. Parents are not responsible for the staffing shortages.
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:46 AM
 
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I actually don’t agree that zoom would be better than just watching cartoons for the day. Zoom is really not a good tool for a lot of people especially little kids.
Not true.

Last year the schools round here were hybrids. Some kids in class room, some remote.

One of the teachers kept track of the progress between the remote and in class students (second grade) and found that the remote students made better progress than the in school.

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How many parents here are volunteering to substitute teach during this surge? You know there aren't enough teachers or subs to fill in for classes. You can complain about students not getting in-person instruction because their teachers dare stay home when ill, or you can do something about it. What are you doing?


PS - Asking for money back is silly, unless parents plan on returning all the tax benefits that people who do not have children pay for to subsidize your family.
None.

Round here they're facing shutting down due to lack of staffing ability.
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The school boards can decide to adjust the calendar so there is a longer break during cold, flu and covid season and have a much shorter summer break. People plan their vacations around the school calendar. This can be planned. Clearly January is a problematic time. Just take the month off and add it to the end of the year. This obviously can’t happen this year but they can plan for next year.

They should treat cancelled days like snow days and make up lost days at the end of the year. If you say they can only have two weeks of flex time then fine, just do two weeks. Maybe that will motivate the unions to use those cancelled days wisely.
I appreciate your point of view.

I also appreciate the dilemma of what to do with tens of millions of children in January.
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:52 AM
 
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Not true.

Last year the schools round here were hybrids. Some kids in class room, some remote.

One of the teachers kept track of the progress between the remote and in class students (second grade) and found that the remote students made better progress than the in school.

Not true? That was my opinion, you can have a different opinion but it doesn’t negate mine.

Last year schools around here were full remote, hybrid and in person. It varied district by district. My kids did hybrid, full remote and full in person. They did WAY better in person, ok with hybrid and terrible with full remote.
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Old 01-06-2022, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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CPS' cost per pupil is $27,000. Our district in a very affluent area was around $14k. This is just a money grab, pure and simple.
Chicago teachers are the highest paid among large cities. No shortage of affluent suburban districts throughout the US pay more. Highly selective private schools, even more.

Having said this, it is challenging to compare cost per pupil given there is no universal standard as to what costs include, or not. Games are played with direct vs indirect costs, debt as well as pensions.
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