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that the "Anti-vaxxer podcaster" was at the top of the news is very curious, since this happened Monday and had already been broadcast by those who care about individual Covid deaths.
Gorsuch's misstatement should be pointed out, although one could claim I'm sure that the flu does kill hundreds of thousands GLOBALLY, and he didn't specify in what I've read.
IOW, they both - and any others - should be making statements acknowledging their error or clarifying their statement.
On Gorsuch, if you go back and listen, there's a hesitation between hundreds and thousands, and there's no 'of' between the numbers. I think they're calling him out on a transcript error. Here's a link - sorry it's Twitter, but the link has the audio clip.
"hundreds, thousands" is what I hear. Let me know what you think.
Edit: So... looking at some of the comments under the Twitter link. People are insane. They're blasting him now for comparing the flu to Covid, when his point is that we haven't asked a federal agency to institute vaccine policy for any other disease. It shouldn't matter how "deadly" the virus is. OSHA either has the authority to regulate, or not.
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The question is larger than just this pandemic or this stage in the pandemic. Should they rehear cases and change the constitutional determination based on the variant in circulation at the moment? Fear not. This Court is nothing but a policy arm of the GOP. Any semblance of thoughtful deliberation is a sham.
The conservatives on SCOTUS face a hard decision. If they uphold personal body autonomy here, it will be harder to curtail abortion rights in those cases. I suppose the out is to just say that OSHA lacks the power to do this as an agency. But that wouldn’t stop health departments and other government entities from stepping in where OSHA gets cut off.
The issues are whether the Feds have the authority to make the decision and, if so, whether a dictator can do it when Congress chooses not to. If the Court says the Feds lack authority that implies they lack authority in regard to abortion, too, so you have it exactly backward.
What makes anybody think the Supreme Court is our friend and will make a correct decision? The fact that the SC actually agreed to hear and rule on this argument is mind boggling. This virus isn't Smallpox or the Black Plague!
The left is claiming that there is no actual mandate as you don't actually have to get vaccinated. It's either get vaccinated or submit to weekly testing. Unfortunately for them, that argument stills fails for the same reason that a strict vaccine mandate would fail. That is that OSHA lacks the legal authority to issue such a rule under its statute.
Yup, get vaccinated or the employee gets fired, unless the employer pays $14,000 fin each day, such a deal. They have already fired a dozen people at my job just this week, for not wanting to submit to getting vaccinated
What makes anybody think the Supreme Court is our friend and will make a correct decision? The fact that the SC actually agreed to hear and rule on this argument is mind boggling. This virus isn't Smallpox or the Black Plague!
At least a vaccine could eradicate smallpox, there is no way to "shut down this virus" even if every man woman and unborn child were vaccinated and boosted against it. It's a scientific fact.
What makes anybody think the Supreme Court is our friend and will make a correct decision? The fact that the SC actually agreed to hear and rule on this argument is mind boggling. This virus isn't Smallpox or the Black Plague!
Well the purpose of the SC is to reverse federal law that violates the Constitution. Federal law has created OSHA, and the president's job is to enforce it. No violation there. But what if a president instructs OSHA to include vaccine enforcement in the private workplace which it's never done before?
Lower federal courts have had mixed decisions about the mandate. That's when SC often steps in to decide a federal law that lower courts have had mixed rulings on.
I for one don't think workplace safety needs federal regulation, unless you are manufacturing firearms, explosives, drugs, alcohol, etc. If someone is manufacturing clothing why does that biz need federal regulation?
A virus has spread nationally, and crosses states borders. it's a national issue as long as the virus is in most states. Thus the feds should play a role and help states. Offer medical products, etc. That should be the approach of the feds.
I've taken the Covid vaccine and the boosters because I'm immune compromised and elderly. I've never taken the Flu vaccine because I've never had the Flu. I like the fact that those decisions belong to me, not government.
This current desire to force people to vaccinate, all in the name of "safety", is chilling.
Yup, since the people vaccinated are considered by OSHA to be safe, since they do not even need to be tested, even though they leave work and interact with dozen and hundreds of people each week, who may or may not be vaccinated or even infected.
So this OSHA mandate really makes no sense at all. For one, COVID is not just a risk at the workplace, it's a virus that exists in everyone's daily life, and second, it will never go away, anymore than the common flu will go away.
Well the purpose of the SC is to reverse federal law that violates the Constitution. Federal law has created OSHA, and the president's job is to enforce it. No violation there. But what if a president instructs OSHA to include vaccine enforcement in the private workplace which it's never done before?
Lower federal courts have had mixed decisions about the mandate. That's when SC often steps in to decide a federal law that lower courts have had mixed rulings on.
I for one don't think workplace safety needs federal regulation, unless you are manufacturing firearms, explosives, drugs, alcohol, etc. If someone is manufacturing clothing why does that biz need federal regulation?
A virus has spread nationally, and crosses states borders. it's a national issue as long as the virus is in most states. Thus the feds should play a role and help states. Offer medical products, etc. That should be the approach of the feds.
The dems really screwed up, they should have foisted this OSHA mandate only on businesses with fewer than 100 employees. This way they would go a long way towards destroying small businesses. But once the SC rules in favor of this tyranny, I'm sure it will suddenly apply to all businesses, even people who work alone in their own private business.
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