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Old 01-07-2022, 12:24 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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For those who believe a person can be whatever gender s/he chooses, help me understand what female and male mean. Maybe I'm just too old and science-minded to get it, but I actually am quite open-minded in general.

Lately I've seen a lot of articles about the current transgender Jeopardy champion, Amy Schneider, being the biggest winning female in Jeopardy history. What does that even mean? Why is it important to talk about Amy as being the winningest female, if anyone can simply decide they are male or female?

Does male and female actually mean anything meaningful anymore?
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Old 01-07-2022, 12:27 PM
 
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It has biological meaning only. You either have male parts, and you are a male, or you have female parts, and you are female.

There are some that are born with both or lacking, and they don't fit in comfortably, but they in no way disprove the biological reality that keep the world turning.

You can feel like you are anything you wish. You can feel you are a turtle, and it doesn't make it so.
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Old 01-07-2022, 12:34 PM
 
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Obviously to any sane individual, it depends on your sex organs. But if you are a science denying liberal, it depends on what you think you are or what you want to be. Emotion over reason.
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Old 01-07-2022, 12:35 PM
 
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There is obviously a clear biological basis for gender. But, if someone who is a born as a biological male chooses to live as a woman. Who cares? It's a free country and it's not harming anyone else.

There are obviously issues to be worked out around things like sports, rest rooms, etc. But, reasonable people can negotiate solutions.
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Old 01-07-2022, 01:20 PM
 
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"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't."
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Old 01-07-2022, 01:29 PM
 
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OK, so I've gotten a few replies, but nothing helpful. Does anyone "pro trans" have a good definition of female and male? I'm trying to figure out why people should even be divided by gender, or even described as being female or male, unless it has a concrete definition.
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Old 01-07-2022, 01:34 PM
 
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There are only male and female.

Anything else is only how one chooses to live or have a perception of their life.\
That is limited to their life only.

It does not change what reality is.
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Old 01-07-2022, 01:36 PM
 
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It has biological meaning only. You either have male parts, and you are a male, or you have female parts, and you are female.

There are some that are born with both or lacking, and they don't fit in comfortably, but they in no way disprove the biological reality that keep the world turning.

You can feel like you are anything you wish. You can feel you are a turtle, and it doesn't make it so.
Well said
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Old 01-07-2022, 01:39 PM
 
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OK, so I've gotten a few replies, but nothing helpful. Does anyone "pro trans" have a good definition of female and male? I'm trying to figure out why people should even be divided by gender, or even described as being female or male, unless it has a concrete definition.
Think about it......then again you shouldn`t have to. Men are men are men are men....same with women.
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Old 01-07-2022, 01:43 PM
 
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I guess I don't understand why people care so much. Unless we are about to have sex, I really don't see the relevance.

And I'm not into checking "equipment" when in a public restroom so heck if I know what someone is. Again I really don't care and don't understand why others do.

If I call someone a male or female regardless of what they call themselves, do I immediately go to heaven? Do I get a million dollars?

What is the point of caring in the first place?
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