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Old 01-10-2022, 10:16 AM
 
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You seem very confused as to who's on trial.
Those facts about Arbery were relevant to what transpired that day. The judge conveniently ensured they wouldn't be mentioned. As well, he messed up when it came to telling the jury whether they were supposed to treat the two statutory sentences on citizen arrest laws in GA as applying in all arrests or whether the separate felony conditions were to apply independently in the case of an arrest predicated on a felony offense.

The statute is ambiguous and challenging for even legal experts to understand correctly. Yet jurors were assumed they'd understand it well enough?

 
Old 01-10-2022, 10:18 AM
 
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So the McMichaels already knew all this about him when they followed him and murdered him? I see a lot of but, but, but and frankly it's pathetic and makes no sense. Shoulda, coulda, woulda - but bottom line is - two twits took the law into their own hands and murdered someone.
You need to look more carefully.
 
Old 01-10-2022, 10:19 AM
 
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You need to look more carefully.
Not really - the logic in the post I am referencing isn't there. Somehow I am sure it makes perfect sense to you.
 
Old 01-10-2022, 10:25 AM
 
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The narrative that he was just a jogger who was hunted and murdered by white men is another leftist lie. I wouldn't go so far as to say I agree with everything the McMichaels did, and I think Roddie Bryan is an idiot who should have minded his own business, but life in prison plus 20 years is just ridiculous.
That's exactly what was done - this narrative you describe. It's not a surprise it inflamed millions.

To think that a young black man was simply and quietly jogging, minding his own business, when he was suddenly accosted by two evil, degenerate, bigoted, and bloodthirsty white men who then proceeded to shoot him down in cold blood for no reason other than they hated that young black man for being black most certainly suits the agenda and ideology many people in the United States hold today with a fervor which can be accurately and aptly be described as a fanatical religious zeal.

But it's not the truth.

As you wrote, I too do not think the McMichaels did everything right, and Bryan will bitterly regret, for a long time, not simply staying home.

On the issue of Bryan, however - he voluntarily provided his mobile's video footage of what happened, as he assumed it would have clarified the event wasn't murder. Who would provide video footage to police of an actual murder if the said event was indeed a criminal homicide?
 
Old 01-10-2022, 10:26 AM
 
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Those facts about Arbery were relevant to what transpired that day.
Not as law is practiced in the US, no.

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Yet jurors were assumed they'd understand it well enough?
That's the risk of the jury system. Feel free to come up with something better.
 
Old 01-10-2022, 10:26 AM
 
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Not really - the logic in the post I am referencing isn't there. Somehow I am sure it makes perfect sense to you.
Again, look more carefully. That is, if facts matter to you.
 
Old 01-10-2022, 10:28 AM
 
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That's the risk of the jury system. Feel free to come up with something better.
How is it "justice for all" - plaintiff and defendants (and deceased in this case) when the statute wasn't properly explained? How can the jury hand in a verdict if their understanding of a law which was central to the case is hampered not only because they aren't lawyers but also because the judge presiding over the case doesn't clarify it for them?
 
Old 01-10-2022, 10:30 AM
 
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So the McMichaels already knew all this about him when they followed him and murdered him? I see a lot of but, but, but and frankly it's pathetic and makes no sense. Shoulda, coulda, woulda - but bottom line is - two twits took the law into their own hands and murdered someone.
Two twits? Then why have three recieved life in prison? I don`t agree with the sentence at all.
 
Old 01-10-2022, 10:33 AM
 
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What exactly is there to "clarify?"

They chased the man down and murdered him

Were you hoping they would go free based on a technicality?

Hey, it worked for Rittenhouse, why not, eh?
 
Old 01-10-2022, 10:37 AM
 
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Hey, it worked for Rittenhouse, why not, eh?
Another poster who doesn't know the facts.
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