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Old 01-12-2022, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You made that up.
I'm sure the left see the unvaxed as human, otherwise mocking the dead by dancing on their graves would not be such great fun for the left.
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Old 01-12-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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My side, the science side, does indeed believe in the science behind gender studies. Do you not? Probably also an anti-vaxxer, anti-free election and anti-climate change science denier. Why lie about things? You believe zero science, just own it so you don't seem like a complete hypocrite.
I’m talking real science, not the woke scientists who depends on grant money working at colleges.
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Old 01-12-2022, 02:38 PM
 
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I’m talking real science, not the woke scientists who depends on grant money working at colleges.
What IS real science to you?

Research is either done in universities with grant money, or by private corporations and their profit motive.

Science is science. Either the test is replicatable or it is not. Either the math adds up or it doesn't.

That is what the peer review process is for. Sure, there is a lot of junk science out there. We have seen medical experts claim smoking was harmless, for example.

The thing is, vaccines are universally accepted as safe and effective. There is not one country anywhere (out of how many?) that takes a different position. There is not even one exception. Billions of doses have been administered. In our country the overwhelming number of hospital cases are unvaccinated. We see that over and over again.

These facts can not be denied. The real science say vaccines help.
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Old 01-12-2022, 02:40 PM
 
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What IS real science to you?

Research is either done in universities with grant money, or by private corporations and their profit motive.

Science is science. Either the test is replicatable or it is not. Either the math adds up or it doesn't.

That is what the peer review process is for. Sure, there is a lot of junk science out there. We have seen medical experts claim smoking was harmless, for example.

The thing is, vaccines are universally accepted as safe and effective. There is not one country anywhere (out of how many?) that takes a different position. There is not even one exception. Billions of doses have been administered. In our country the overwhelming number of hospital cases are unvaccinated. We see that over and over again.

These facts can not be denied. The real science say vaccines help.
You do know that peer reviewers are CHOSEN and PAID by whoever does the study or the publication where the study will be published, right?

Hand picked. And paid well.

Huh. So how is that unbiased peer review looking now?
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Old 01-12-2022, 02:41 PM
 
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What IS real science to you?

Research is either done in universities with grant money, or by private corporations and their profit motive.

Science is science. Either the test is replicatable or it is not. Either the math adds up or it doesn't.

That is what the peer review process is for. Sure, there is a lot of junk science out there. We have seen medical experts claim smoking was harmless, for example.

The thing is, vaccines are universally accepted as safe and effective. There is not one country anywhere (out of how many?) that takes a different position. There is not even one exception. Billions of doses have been administered. In our country the overwhelming number of hospital cases are unvaccinated. We see that over and over again.

These facts can not be denied. The real science say vaccines help.


Unless a scientist disagrees, which some does
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Old 01-12-2022, 02:43 PM
 
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Just like Pravda or Tass the La Times does as instructed or what is implied they do.
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Old 01-12-2022, 02:44 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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You do know that peer reviewers are CHOSEN and PAID by whoever does the study or the publication where the study will be published, right?

Hand picked. And paid well.

Huh. So how is that unbiased peer review looking now?
i dunno about that. i've done dozens of peer reviews and never once got so much as a penny for it.
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Old 01-12-2022, 02:46 PM
 
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i dunno about that. i've done dozens of peer reviews and never once got so much as a penny for it.
For publication by a medical or pharmaceutical company or publisher of medical and pharmaceutical articles/education?

They get paid.
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Old 01-12-2022, 02:47 PM
 
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What IS real science to you?

Research is either done in universities with grant money, or by private corporations and their profit motive.

Science is science. Either the test is replicatable or it is not. Either the math adds up or it doesn't.

That is what the peer review process is for. Sure, there is a lot of junk science out there. We have seen medical experts claim smoking was harmless, for example.

The thing is, vaccines are universally accepted as safe and effective. There is not one country anywhere (out of how many?) that takes a different position. There is not even one exception. Billions of doses have been administered. In our country the overwhelming number of hospital cases are unvaccinated. We see that over and over again.

These facts can not be denied. The real science say vaccines help.

If you could point me to the REAL SCIENCE that shows how the COVID virus was isolated that would be great. This would really be quite something if you could do that, because even the WHO documentation for COVID sequencing does not describe the method. But let me know.
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Old 01-12-2022, 02:47 PM
 
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when people go out of their way and push their views on the public such as these anti-vaxer right-wing people than all civility is OFF...the right calls people names and generally behaves at the school yard level....


i see one antivaxers handlers say her death was from pneumonia, cant never tell the truth i guess
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