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Old 01-14-2022, 08:52 AM
 
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That is very wishful thinking on your part. This conservative will never vote for Trump, and unfortunately I am not alone. Although I voted 3rd Party in the past I could have willingly pulled that lever in 2024 for Trump prior to his actions after December 14th, 2020. I might’ve even forced myself prior to what happened January 6, 2021. But it did happen and I will never ever vote for Trump after January 6th and neither will my husband who voted for him in both 2016 and 2020. I don’t think Trump engaged in sedition, my objection is that he sat by watching the chaos occur in the capital and twiddled his thumbs. Without January 6th Trump would be a sure bet in 2024, but you need to understand those who accepted Trump as a necessary evil during his presidency and when voting in 2020 are not going to be as easy to forgive him for his actions and/or inactions on January 6 as those who were his fans.
I'm not a conservative (I'm a moderate that has voted for more R's than D's the past ten years) but I agree with you 100%. I will never vote for Trump. He's a bad man.
Just another example: the hang up on the NPR interview this week. Here is how he works: Trump is so used to getting his way that this is the way he reacts when he is challenged with questions from an org that is not in bed with him. Which I would hope we all agree that for democracy to work the PotUS has to be challenged.

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Old 01-14-2022, 08:57 AM
 
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I think that unfortunately you are right. The Democrats, including those in the media industry, know it too. They are going to start pushing the narrative that the Republican Party needs him. They want to go against Trump and I am hearing noises that makes me afraid too many Republicans are buying it.

My husband has said the exact same thing. Donald Trump’s inaction (or for those more generously inclined, delay of action) on January 6th after those folks entered the Capitol makes him untenable to lead the nation, no matter how good his policies.

I really don’t want an election based on whose damage to our nation will be the easiest to clean up after our four years in purgatory. WTF is wrong with DeSantis, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, or Marco Rubio?

The very fact that Trump kept to himself from the get-go how deadly he knew the Coronavirus to be for his own political ends was enough to morally exclude him from running again. And yet he didn't lose the nomination nor any of his supporters. Trump might just as easily have said, "I could murder a half-million of you with a deadly biological agent and not lose a single vote" and he'd be right, wouldn't he?
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:07 AM
 
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So, let me get this straight, for the dems to win, instead of working to untangle supply lines, control inflation, stop illegal immigration, start trying to help our energy independence instead of making us dependant on foreign sources, stop trying to pass throw away money bills we can never pay for, stop chasing jobs out of the country with an idiotic "global warming" scam, stop indoctrinating children into the communist party/recruit them into homosexual -transsexual and other assorted perversions while demonizing the parents for trying to protect their children by labeling them as domestic terrorists, ad infinitum.

Instead of working for the country, the only hope they have of winning is trying to stir up enough hatred for President Trump that people will overlook what the dems are doing and vote to continue the destruction of America to avoid some mean tweets? Do I have that right?

President Trump should allow DeSantis to take the white house as Trump continues to create a powerful coalition to fight the socialist/communist attacks on our country.

If the only path the dems have for victory is dependent on how much hatred they can stir up, and how many voter integrity laws they can circumvent to perpetuate voter fraud to win, they don't deserve to win.

Nothing needs to be done to avoid Trump tweets.


Trump isn't on Twitter.


He's been banned from Twitter.
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:11 AM
 
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I'm not a conservative (I'm a moderate that has voted for more R's than D's the past ten years) but I agree with you 100%. I will never vote for Trump. He's a bad man.
Just another example: the hang up on the NPR interview this week. Here is how he works: Trump is so used to getting his way that this is the way he reacts when he is challenged with questions from an org that is not in bed with him. Which I would hope we all agree that for democracy to work the PotUS has to be challenged.

It's childish.


He didn't hear no often enough.


A lifetime of being indulged.
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Old 01-14-2022, 12:27 PM
 
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I love this video. One reason why we need Trump. He ain't scared to call people out. We need tough.

https://rumble.com/vsgj9j-hillary-belongs-in-jail.html
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Old 01-14-2022, 12:30 PM
 
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I voted for Trump twice. I would not vote for him in 2024. I hope like hell he doesn't run. Really.
im not voting for him in the primary. no matter what.
I will vote for him in the general election because saving my country from the left is vastly more important than not voting for a guy who really is a problem. Whatever Trump is, he is not a danger to democracy... the left however is.
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Old 01-14-2022, 12:31 PM
 
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"Cancun" Ted Cruz??????
i will very likely vote for Ted in the primary. if he wins, I will enthusiastically work to get him elected.
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Old 01-14-2022, 12:36 PM
 
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the OP question: How Democrats can win the 2024 Presidential election

They have to bring back alive FDR or JFK and make everybody in the GOP that they are traitors and plant a bunch of skeletons behind their backyards. If Biden, Kamala or Hillary are the choices, they are done before it begins.
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Old 01-14-2022, 12:40 PM
 
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By the time the election rolls around, the dems are going to have run this country into the ground. They have absolutley no one they can turn to... Sanders, Clinton, Warren, Mayor Pete, Kackles.
This country now needs someone very strong, who has, and will do again MAGA.
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