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Old 01-19-2022, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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nope, it's done and dead. check your favorite MSM site for the celebrating or wailing
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Old 01-19-2022, 09:08 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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nope, it's done and dead. check your favorite MSM site for the celebrating or wailing
Kamala has left the Senate chamber. That means she won't be around to break the tie even if Manchin and Sinema change their minds. So it's over for tonight at least.

But that doesn't mean it's permanently over.
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Old 01-19-2022, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Austin
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The Biden Administration wants to change filibuster rules so their is a glimmer that is could be passed. It seems almost all Republicans are against it, along with enough Democrats to not even make it feasible to go down this route.
It's not a voting rights act. Don't say that. They want dupes to believe that so don't. It's a voting RULES change. The democrats basically took all of the hastily cobbled together covid voting extensions that were meant to be temporary and are trying to make them permanent. Nobody's voting rights are being walked back by the fascist republicans like you've been told. The pandemic's impact has lessened and the stopgap rules of "Just this once anybody can vote anytime, by carrier pigeon if needs be and it's all legit" have expired. That expiration isn't Jim Crow v2.0. They gave this stupid rules overreach bill the name of some not really very important guy who once had his picture taken with MLK and now it's this heroic battle for the soul of democracy. Give the drama a rest. This needs to die. It will die and democrats don't need to riot over it. Save the CVS's and just go vote the way you always have. I promise their will be no Klan intimidation at the polls just like there wasn't before.
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Old 01-19-2022, 10:00 PM
 
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Kamala has left the Senate chamber. That means she won't be around to break the tie even if Manchin and Sinema change their minds. So it's over for tonight at least.

But that doesn't mean it's permanently over.

They have 2022 to get them 2 to switch their votes because the Red Wave is coming. We will witness how corrupt the Democrats are in how they will try to buy their votes with offers from 1 side and attacks from the other.
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Old 01-19-2022, 10:09 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's not a voting rights act. Don't say that. They want dupes to believe that so don't. It's a voting RULES change.
I refer to it as "The Criminals' Voting Rights Act".
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Old 01-19-2022, 10:12 PM
 
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Shot down once more. Yeehaw.
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Old 01-19-2022, 10:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The Senate held a vote on the Criminals' Voting Rights Act bill Wednesday night (Jan. 19), and it failed. Later they tried to do the same with the filibuster-change bill, and it also failed.

Schumer changed his vote to Nay at the last minute so he could bring the legislation up again later.

Too bad, so sad.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/6568261001/

Senate Democrats fail to advance voting rights legislation and changes to filibuster

Savannah Behrmann
Ledyard King
USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — Democrats came up short Wednesday night on a last-ditch effort to advance a voting rights bill and ending, for now, their push to beat back a myriad of GOP-sponsored state laws that civil rights advocates say would suppress turnout by minority voters.

The vote earlier Wednesday night to end debate on the bill was shot down, 51-49, with every Republican voting against moving the bill to the Senate floor for a final vote. Democrats needed 60 votes overcome a legislative procedure known as the filibuster. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., changed his vote to "nay" at the end so he can bring the legislation up again at a later date if he wishes. Hours later, a separate vote to change the filibuster rules for the voting rights bill so it could pass with a simple majority of 51 votes also failed.
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Old 01-20-2022, 05:36 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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The Senate held a vote on the Criminals' Voting Rights Act bill Wednesday night (Jan. 19), and it failed. Later they tried to do the same with the filibuster-change bill, and it also failed.

Schumer changed his vote to Nay at the last minute so he could bring the legislation up again later.

Too bad, so sad.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/6568261001/

Senate Democrats fail to advance voting rights legislation and changes to filibuster

Savannah Behrmann
Ledyard King
USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — Democrats came up short Wednesday night on a last-ditch effort to advance a voting rights bill and ending, for now, their push to beat back a myriad of GOP-sponsored state laws that civil rights advocates say would suppress turnout by minority voters.

The vote earlier Wednesday night to end debate on the bill was shot down, 51-49, with every Republican voting against moving the bill to the Senate floor for a final vote. Democrats needed 60 votes overcome a legislative procedure known as the filibuster. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., changed his vote to "nay" at the end so he can bring the legislation up again at a later date if he wishes. Hours later, a separate vote to change the filibuster rules for the voting rights bill so it could pass with a simple majority of 51 votes also failed.
Has the NASA/election fortification bill been voted on yet? That one only needs a simple majority.

https://spacenews.com/nasa-leasing-b...s-legislation/
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Old 01-20-2022, 06:32 AM
 
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Has the NASA/election fortification bill been voted on yet? That one only needs a simple majority.

https://spacenews.com/nasa-leasing-b...s-legislation/
Indeed.

Now that the much covered and publicized filibuster bill is dead, maybe the sneaky Dems will bring the NASA swapped Trojan horse voting corruption bill to vote while no one is looking and BAM....."gotcha!"

When *this* one is confirmed dead - THEN I'll will do much rejoicing (Monty Python reference there).
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Old 01-20-2022, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Nor would the many states that made the drastic changes to voting for Covid on the fly in 2020.




the funny thing is, if Dems would spend their time pointing out the pitfalls and irregularities, and how to overcome them, then they'd be doing their actual job. Things like "well it says use your DL# or last 4, but if my voter registration from 20 years ago didn't ask that, you're disqualifying that" ... that's obvious and easy to fix.

Instead, they've been crying racism and Jim Crow for 20 years.

they cry how Blacks can't provide ID, when Blacks favor voter ID. When Blacks will answer "WTF you talking about? Here's my ID!"
The VRA could have blocked expansion of mail-in ballots during a pandemic, really.


We already have bipartisan election boards to address irregularities many headed by republicans like in Maricopa County and Wisconsin that found no fraud. But that wasn't enough, these states don't need to institute all these restrictions for irregularities.

How much voter fraud did they find in 2020, next to none. I know, I know just tightening up the laws to give voters faith in the election system the right wing has been trashing with their conspiracy therories.
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