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Old 01-14-2022, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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The constitution allows for alternate electors if the ones sent to Washington are invalidated

Some of you people need to read up on American law
They were not invalidated. The electors sent in by State were the legal documents. Those which were sent in were fraudulent.
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Old 01-14-2022, 03:08 PM
 
Location: New York City
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They were not invalidated.
Doesn't matter, the alternate electors were sent in case they were. It's 100% legal

The Outdated Law that Republicans Could Use to Upend the Electoral College Vote
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily...vote-next-time

"The claim that state legislatures may have powers to intervene in disputed elections is not, in fact, a crackpot theory. The Electoral Count Act (E.C.A.) of 1877, an outdated federal law governing the Electoral College, contains a number of kludgy, untested provisions that future Republican opportunists might seek to exploit. In one passage, the law appears to authorize state legislatures to act in the case of a “failed” election."
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Old 01-14-2022, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Doesn't matter, the alternate electors were sent in case they were. It's 100% legal

The Outdated Law that Republicans Could Use to Upend the Electoral College Vote
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily...vote-next-time

"The claim that state legislatures may have powers to intervene in disputed elections is not, in fact, a crackpot theory. The Electoral Count Act (E.C.A.) of 1877, an outdated federal law governing the Electoral College, contains a number of kludgy, untested provisions that future Republican opportunists might seek to exploit. In one passage, the law appears to authorize state legislatures to act in the case of a “failed” election."
The Election was not a failed election. Only in Trump conspirators' minds. No court or elected body claimed it was "failed". Only the seditious conspirators have made that claim. That will not be a very good defense if charged.
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Old 01-14-2022, 03:31 PM
 
Location: New York City
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The Election was not a failed election. Only in Trump conspirators' minds. No court or elected body claimed it was "failed". Only the seditious conspirators have made that claim. That will not be a very good defense if charged.
You still don't get it.

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Old 01-14-2022, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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The constitution allows for alternate electors if the ones sent to Washington are invalidated

Some of you people need to read up on American law
Who has the power to invalidate a state's electors?
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Old 01-14-2022, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Doesn't matter, the alternate electors were sent in case they were. It's 100% legal

The Outdated Law that Republicans Could Use to Upend the Electoral College Vote
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily...vote-next-time

"The claim that state legislatures may have powers to intervene in disputed elections is not, in fact, a crackpot theory. The Electoral Count Act (E.C.A.) of 1877, an outdated federal law governing the Electoral College, contains a number of kludgy, untested provisions that future Republican opportunists might seek to exploit. In one passage, the law appears to authorize state legislatures to act in the case of a “failed” election."
Only takes a grand jury to charge them likely a DC jury will charge them and convict them. Here in Arizona they were sent by local Republican party wasn't even signed by any elected official. When they are all arrested and cuffs slapped on they be crying for a plea deal. Examples need to be made of all the actors who were involved in the attempted overturning of a legal elections so this stunt isn't tried again.
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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They need to investigate everything- finally the coin has flipped.

Michigan’s attorney general is asking federal prosecutors to open a criminal investigation into 16 Republicans who submitted false certificates stating they were the state’s presidential electors despite Joe Biden’s 154,000-vote victory in 2020.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...rs?context=amp
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:15 PM
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Location: North Monterey County
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I believe the Secretaries of State or whomever the official elections officer of the state needs to sign the certificates of Election.

These submitted by the fake electors were not.

Oh. And if you knowingly notarize what you know to be a fraudulent document? You CAN be prosecuted.
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BlakeJones View Post
Doesn't matter, the alternate electors were sent in case they were. It's 100% legal

The Outdated Law that Republicans Could Use to Upend the Electoral College Vote
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily...vote-next-time

"The claim that state legislatures may have powers to intervene in disputed elections is not, in fact, a crackpot theory. The Electoral Count Act (E.C.A.) of 1877, an outdated federal law governing the Electoral College, contains a number of kludgy, untested provisions that future Republican opportunists might seek to exploit. In one passage, the law appears to authorize state legislatures to act in the case of a “failed” election."
Why would you think they care about law?
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:22 PM
 
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Oh - and whomever used their notary stamp to notarize any of these signatures - also needs to be prosecuted.

https://www.nationalnotary.org/notar...ary-misconduct
A strict reading of the law makes it seem like the notary didn't break the law.


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Jurat notarizations are required for transactions where the signer must attest to the content of the document, such as all affidavits and pleadings in court. It is a certification on an affidavit declaring when, where and before whom it was sworn. However, jurat notarizations do not prove a document is true, legal, valid or enforceable.

In executing a jurat, a Notary guarantees that the signer:

personally appeared before the Notary

was positively identified using personal knowledge or satisfactory evidence

was given an oath or affirmation by the Notary attesting to the truthfulness of the document and

signed the document in the Notary's presence as the Notary is certifying that the signer attested to the truthfulness of the document contents under penalty of perjury
https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,...9836--,00.html

Don't get too blood thirsty.
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