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Old 01-14-2022, 08:18 PM
 
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Conservatives feel that government should be limited in the functions it performs, and the degree to which it imposes itself in the lives of its citizens. Enforcement of criminal law is one of the functions of government conservatives support.

 
Old 01-14-2022, 08:19 PM
 
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Conservatives feel that government should be limited in the functions it performs, and the degree to which it imposes itself in the lives of its citizens. Enforcement of criminal law is one of the functions of government conservatives support.
This. Also that government screws up just about everything it touches.
 
Old 01-14-2022, 08:37 PM
 
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Do conservatives want more “law and order” and less government?
Actually, we just want people to behave themselves and act within the law.
Liberals won't do that unless someone makes them.
 
Old 01-14-2022, 08:43 PM
 
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Interesting responses so far, but still not much discussion of my fundamental question:

Should individuals and businesses have more freedom to do what want, regardless of the potential harm to individuals and society? Or should individuals and businesses have less freedom, for the sake of reducing harm to individuals and society?

It seems like there have been lapses in law enforcement in some areas of the USA. Shouldn’t conservatives be happy about that, since it means less government intrusion in peoples’ lives?

Why should government be responsible for public safety? Isn’t that nanny-state socialism? Shouldn’t individuals be responsible for their own safety via the Second Amendment? If an individual can’t defend themselves without the help of police, then don’t they deserve to die? Isn’t that just natural selection at work? Surely we don’t want weak people surviving and passing on their inferior genes to another generation that will be dependent on police just to survive.
 
Old 01-14-2022, 08:47 PM
 
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Conservatives believe that everyone has a right to do whatever they want, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of anybody else. (Less government)

The purpose of law enforcement is to protect everybody's rights equally – keeping people from infringing on each other's rights. (Pro law enforcement to protect rights of everyone).
That would be my version
 
Old 01-14-2022, 08:53 PM
 
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Conservatives believe that everyone has a right to do whatever they want, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of anybody else. (Less government)

The purpose of law enforcement is to protect everybody's rights equally – keeping people from infringing on each other's rights. (Pro law enforcement to protect rights of everyone).
Wrong. What you described is a Libertarian.

Conservatives favor more government when it suits their purposes. Examples:

Anti-gay marriage
Anti-abortion
Pro-School prayer
Anti-drug
Anti-union
 
Old 01-14-2022, 08:57 PM
 
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Actually, we just want people to behave themselves and act within the law.
Liberals won't do that unless someone makes them.
As seen in city after city during the "summer of Love".

The Police should provide enough protection that people can safely conduct business, and safely move throughout their cities without fear of assault by criminals.

Democrats prefer to provide shields and safe haven to said criminals, as long as the criminals say they are members of their preferred groups, regardless of criminals intent.
 
Old 01-14-2022, 09:17 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Shouldn’t individuals be responsible for their own safety via the Second Amendment? If an individual can’t defend themselves without the help of police, then don’t they deserve to die? Isn’t that just natural selection at work? Surely we don’t want weak people surviving and passing on their inferior genes to another generation that will be dependent on police just to survive.
Your argument is that criminals are superior to law-abiding people and therefore deserve to pass on their genes??
 
Old 01-14-2022, 09:38 PM
 
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Your argument is that criminals are superior to law-abiding people and therefore deserve to pass on their genes??
The whole conservative philosophy boils down to this: let nature take its course without government interference. Why should the government be responsible for public safety? Shouldn’t individuals be responsible for their own self defense?

Government is incompetent at everything they do, so why would you want the government in charge of public safety? Not only that, but prisons, courts, and police forces are expensive. Imagine the tax dollars that could be saved if we got the government out of public safety.
 
Old 01-14-2022, 09:45 PM
 
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Law and Order is external. We want the government to be visible to discourage potential crimes between individuals.

Less Government is internal. We want the government to stop at the front door.

It may sounds simple but that is the gist of it.
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