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Old 07-20-2022, 12:56 PM
 
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DOT Secretary Buttigieg says EVs need more subsidies to get people to buy them and still having trouble with more drivers not buying switching to them.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/19/buttig...eel-pump-pain/
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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DOT Secretary Buttigieg says EVs need more subsidies to get people to buy them and still having trouble with more drivers not buying switching to them.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/19/buttig...eel-pump-pain/
Someone should tell Mayor Buttplug that real Americans drive real cars, not appliances.
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:21 PM
 
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Actually we need better range and faster charging Mr. Buttplug. If EV's are so great then most people would be buying them.
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:35 PM
 
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Actually we need better range and faster charging Mr. Buttplug. If EV's are so great then most people would be buying them.
Get this done, and it will be a deal breaker. Make the transition seamless for all, not just some, and EV's will be widely accepted.
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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The grid cannot handle current needs and this idiot suggests adding to the problem? Go on whatever kind of leave people like you go on.
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:37 PM
 
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and as soon as the batteries die....everyone gets a new one

....sorta like selling toothpaste
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:38 PM
 
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Get this done, and it will be a deal breaker. Make the transition seamless for all, not just some, and EV's will be widely accepted.
EVs will never be more than a niche product for a niche buyer.

Batteries are not trusted as long term devices. No one is complaining about gas vehicles except the environMENTALists.

We back up electricity with GAS generators, not the other way around.
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:40 PM
 
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Subsidies for something that's not going to help ?

Battery-powered electric-vehicles, with long driving ranges, can't succeed in the future because energy is going to be in short supply in the future. It would be difficult to charge large numbers of large electric-vehicles in the future.

Energy is going to be in short supply in the future because carbon-release must be minimized.

Presently, battery-powered electric-vehicles, with long driving ranges, promise the consumer that large vehicles can be maintained into the future. But they are expensive, and as already explained, not logistically sustainable into the future.

Finally, battery-powered electric-vehicles have attributable carbon-release based on the electric powerplant that they draw electricity from.

There is no carbon-free or carbon-neutral electricity powergrid.

A more reasonable policy would be BMW i3's pointed to the future. Basically, a policy like that makes a 3000 pound weight limit on battery-powered electric-vehicles.


Or for consumers that live in apartments that don't have smart-chargers for every parking space, carbon-neutral liquid vehicle fuels are possible. Of course supply would be a problem and then large vehicles would not be logistically sustainable. Compressed hydrogen is possible but California says that hydrogen fueling stations, simply based on delivery of hydrogen, cost $3 million to $5 million each.

Now solar power, wind power, or hydroelectric power, combined with industrially captured carbon-dioxide, produces carbon-neutral synthetic methanol. Then the methanol can be used in internal-combustion engines or on-board reformed into hydrogen-fuel-cells. But note that the synthetic methanol could be accounted as two uses of one carbon-release.

Or lightly fertilized sorghum, grown on un-irrigated land, can produce carbon-neutral ethanol when by cellulose processes
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:41 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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So all he wants to do is have the government throw money at them to bring the price down.

Still not a solution to the climate crisis.
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:43 PM
 
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So all he wants to do is have the government throw money at them to bring the price down.

Still not a solution to the climate crisis.
The only "climate crisis" is the one in your head.
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