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Old 01-17-2022, 03:58 PM
 
Location: USA
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But, apparently, that would never happen:


I am Jewish (not a member of the Reform movement), and this disgusts me.


One congregant with a gun could have ended this/ Thank God it ended with all congregants alive
A lot of good it did the Rabi being an Anti-Israel Reformist. The Anti-Israel Jihadist came after him just the same. Interesting thing about Islam, once they take your land from you, it's always theirs, whether you recapture it or not.

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Old 01-17-2022, 05:34 PM
 
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Reportedly, the hostage taker at one point yelled to get his sister on the phone.

Siddiqui was not the hostage taker’s sister and her family condemned the hostage taker.

The hostage taker’s family in the UK was involved with direct negotiations to persuade the hostage taker to release his hostages.

The hostage taker’s brother claims his brother was mentally ill, had a criminal background and wants to know why he was able to get a visa and buy a gun. It is unknown what if any kind of criminal history the hostage taker may have had. Minor crimes are generally overlooked.

The hostage taker was not on the no fly list.

Appointments for a US visas at the US embassy in the UK have been extremely limited due to Covid.

It’s more likely, the hostage taker entered the US via the reciprocal visa waiver program, established in 1986 with 40 other countries.
Both Biden and Harris set a standard when they went to Atlanta and spoke of white supremacy etc. after the spa shooting there with ZERO proof of such and the establishment even threatened to FIRE the police there for saying there was no proof.

Let that sink in. Sitting president and VP try to label a US citizen prior to trial as a racist terrorist for political gain.
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Old 01-17-2022, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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But, apparently, that would never happen:


I am Jewish (not a member of the Reform movement), and this disgusts me.


One congregant with a gun could have ended this/ Thank God it ended with all congregants alive
Some people foolishly continue to believe that putting up "gun free zone" signs will mean that criminals will abide by them and enter the premises unarmed

Fools!

That rabbi should be ashamed of himself for not letting his congregation (either in whole or in part) be armed.
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Old 01-17-2022, 07:57 PM
 
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A lot of good it did the Rabi being an Anti-Israel Reformist. The Anti-Israel Jihadist came after him just the same. Interesting thing about Islam, once they take your land from you, it's always theirs, whether you recapture it or not.
The Reform movement is just as Zionist as any other group. Some ultra orthodox are anti-Zionist for religious reasons. Reform movement was originally neutral to it because of its founding principles that Jews could be accepted in the west if they modernized. By the 1930s, zionism had been accepted.

Reform issues with Israel has to do with how they treat non-Orthodox denominations.
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Old 01-18-2022, 12:22 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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She is criminally insane. Scary that she is the chief law enforcement officer of a state
That is pretty common among DA's that were backed by Soros, or other Leftist Billionairs.


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But, apparently, that would never happen:
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according to former Beth Israel member Itamar Gelbman, the Rabbi of the synagogue, Rabbi Charlie Cytron-Walker not only called Israel an apartheid state against Islam, but he also didn’t allow his members (including Itamar) to be armed during services.
I am Jewish (not a member of the Reform movement), and this disgusts me.

One congregant with a gun could have ended this/ Thank God it ended with all congregants alive
A lot of the clergy, over the past 60 years have been rather woke (unwilling to follow Luke 22:36).
They assume the government will protect them.
They assume, because they can be reasoned with, a gunman can be reasoned with.
Not sure if it is simply living in good times, or they watched too much TV.

I this case they were sort of right.
In many cases they have been dead wrong, but it will take a lot more before they learn.
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Old 01-18-2022, 09:09 PM
 
Location: The 719
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44-year-old Malik Faisal Akram
Can you say that with a British accent?

Anywho, what a happy ending! Yay!
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Old 01-19-2022, 05:13 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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That is pretty common among DA's that were backed by Soros, or other Leftist Billionairs.

A lot of the clergy, over the past 60 years have been rather woke (unwilling to follow Luke 22:36).
They assume the government will protect them.
They assume, because they can be reasoned with, a gunman can be reasoned with.
Not sure if it is simply living in good times, or they watched too much TV.

I this case they were sort of right.
In many cases they have been dead wrong, but it will take a lot more before they learn.
Postmodern wokeness scores a propaganda victory here:
https://ktemnews.com/how-active-shoo...texas-standoff
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During the livestream of the service that turned into a hostage situation, the shooter said he had chosen the synagogue in Colleyville because it was closest to the Dallas-Fort Worth airport.

The rabbi says the security training he's received over the past several years saved his life and the lives of his fellow hostages, according to CNN.

...

The FBI defines an active shooter as an individual 'actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area', like schools, churches, or public events.

Cytron-Walker says after hours of waiting for the right moment, he hit the shooter with a chair so that he and the others could escape.
No. What saved their lives was that this wasn't actually an active shooter situation. See definition in the article quoted. This was a hostage situation, not active shooter. Had it been the later, they would have all been dead. Postmoderism (the idea that there is no objective truth) allows him to pretend a new definition, to fit his delusion.
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Old 01-19-2022, 08:43 AM
 
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His brother said he was mentally ill and had a criminal record and said he shouldn’t have been allowed to travel to the US. The Brits arrested two teens who were also involved somehow.

Meanwhile, the woke FBI said the guy didn’t target Jews. As if they didn’t have enough credibility issues right now.
The FBI also indicated they freed the Hostages. They had to walk back the part about this having nothing to do with Jews. The Rabbi had the bad taste to go on National TV and describe how he threw a chair at the Terrorist and they escaped.

[color=purple] Rabbi Charlie Cytron-Walker told CBS the hostages were "terrified" and described how he threw a chair at the gunman as they made their escape "without even a shot being fired".[/purple]

The British Brother of the Terrorist says he can’t figure how his brother got a Visa to get into the USA. He had a record, he recently traveled to Pakistan. He should have been Flagged …. But he wasn’t.

This is why he wasn’t Flagged, why he got into the USA. The FBI and Homeland Security were following orders.

Proclamation on Ending Discriminatory Bans on Entry to The United States - President Joe Biden. January 20, 2021

NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 212(f) and 215(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f) and 1185(a), hereby find that it is in the interests of the United States to revoke Executive Order 13780 of March 6, 2017 (Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into the United States), Proclamation 9645 of September 24, 2017 (Enhancing Vetting Capabilities and Processes for Detecting Attempted Entry Into the United States by Terrorists or Other Public-Safety Threats), Proclamation 9723 of April 10, 2018 (Maintaining Enhanced Vetting Capabilities and Processes for Detecting Attempted Entry Into the United States by Terrorists or Other Public-Safety Threats), and Proclamation 9983 of January 31, 2020 (Improving Enhanced Vetting Capabilities and Processes for Detecting Attempted Entry Into the United States by Terrorists or Other Public-Safety Threats). Our national security will be enhanced by revoking the Executive Order and Proclamations.

One of those January 20, 2021 Executive Orders to wipe out anything that President Trump did.
Congrats Joe, you dodged a bullet here because the Hostages didn’t get killed by a Terrorist that your Policy allowed into the Country. This isn’t about Guns, it’s about National Security. Who believes that this guy wandered around on the streets until he found a gun to purchase? He got it from someone just like himself.

The Logistics of this guy moving all around the DFW area - Airport to South Dallas to Irving and then West to Colleyville in Tarrant County stretch the imagination … especially for a Brit with no car or knowledge of the area. They have video of him hugging the driver at his first drop off. Irving is a good 40 minute drive. Irving to Colleyville, about the same. He covered a lot of ground and he had help.
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Old 01-19-2022, 02:11 PM
 
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The British Brother of the Terrorist says he can’t figure how his brother got a Visa to get into the USA. He had a record, he recently traveled to Pakistan. He should have been Flagged …. But he wasn’t.

This is why he wasn’t Flagged, why he got into the USA. The FBI and Homeland Security were following orders.

Proclamation on Ending Discriminatory Bans on Entry to The United States - President Joe Biden. January 20, 2021

NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 212(f) and 215(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f) and 1185(a), hereby find that it is in the interests of the United States to revoke Executive Order 13780 of March 6, 2017 (Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into the United States), Proclamation 9645 of September 24, 2017 (Enhancing Vetting Capabilities and Processes for Detecting Attempted Entry Into the United States by Terrorists or Other Public-Safety Threats), Proclamation 9723 of April 10, 2018 (Maintaining Enhanced Vetting Capabilities and Processes for Detecting Attempted Entry Into the United States by Terrorists or Other Public-Safety Threats), and Proclamation 9983 of January 31, 2020 (Improving Enhanced Vetting Capabilities and Processes for Detecting Attempted Entry Into the United States by Terrorists or Other Public-Safety Threats). Our national security will be enhanced by revoking the Executive Order and Proclamations.
help.
Which one of those rules that were revoked specifically allowed this guy into the country?
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Old 01-19-2022, 02:48 PM
 
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Which one of those rules that were revoked specifically allowed this guy into the country?
How ever Biden wants to interpret the rule, just like your bud Borok O'Farrakhan, deciding himself personally, what was going to be categorized as a Terrorist attack.
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