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Old 01-23-2022, 10:10 AM
 
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Biden is the most anti-war president we've had in a long time (finally ending the Afghanistan war).

Trying to make it seem Biden is responsible for Putin's actions is Biden Derangement Syndrome.
When you have nothing...just make it up.
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Biden is the most anti-war president we've had in a long time (finally ending the Afghanistan war).
Wrong. America is currently in about 5 different wars right now.

Biden wants you to think we don't have troops in combat zones, and you took the bait.
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The U.S. military is officially fighting wars in seven countries, according to the White House’s latest war report. Known formally as the “Report on the Legal and Policy Frameworks Guiding the United States’ Military Force and Related National Security Operations,” the unclassified portion flags ops in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and Niger — all under the banner of the same war authority granted in the 2002 Authorization for the Use of Military Force to fight al-Qaeda-linked militants.
https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...5-2018/146688/
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:15 AM
 
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The agreement to leave Afghanistan was signed 2/29/2020.

Pray tell..who was President at that time ? It sure was NOT Biden so he did not end the war in Afghanistan.


https://www.state.gov/wp-content/upl...n-02.29.20.pdf

Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan between the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban and the United States of America

February 29, 2020 which corresponds to Rajab 5, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 10, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar
How many so-called "agreements" have we seen over the past few decades that just were ripped up because "the situation on the ground changed" or "we received intel about some threat." Biden could have easily said screw it and left troops there; but he didn't, even after getting mercilessly ripped apart by the MSM AND Trump BTW.

Also, Obama's foreign policy was a complete disaster. Trump's was a little less of a disaster, but I fail to see the connection between Obama and Biden here.
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:18 AM
 
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When you have nothing...just make it up.
The only thing I've gotten from this thread is that Biden sucks and is going to invade Ukraine because he has a D in front of his name.

Oh, and that Obama's interventionist foreign policy sucked (which I happen to agree with). But that's besides the point, Biden is not Obama when it comes to war.
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:21 AM
 
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Why show the just democrats who voted for it?

Why not show all the senators who voted for and against. IIRC


yes had 29 Ds and 48 Rs
no had 21 Ds and 1 R
"Why show the just democrats who voted for it?

Because of the claim, "Bush/Cheney got the U.S. in 2 wars"

When in FACT BOTH parties did.

As I said the Senate Majority Leader can KILL ANY BILL he wants.

The SML at the time was a DEM.

He not only voted for bill but CO-SPONSORED IT.

The House Minority Leader, a dem, ALSO co-sponsored the bill.

Without his support the bill would NOT have gotten passed.

I know this is hard for some dems to comprehend!

I posted the dems who DID vote for it to show the hypocrisy of many on the left who VOTED FOR some of those dems and STILL ONLY blame the repubs.

I thought I made that clear.

Obviously you did NOT grasp it!
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:22 AM
 
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Wrong. America is currently in about 5 different wars right now.

Biden wants you to think we don't have troops in combat zones, and you took the bait.

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...5-2018/146688/
Yeah, and our bombs we sold to Saudi Arabia under Trump were used to kill civilians in Yemen. I never said Biden was totally anti-war, but he is more skeptical than Trump and Obama.

I don't know the current state of those conflicts since the article you linked was from when Trump was president.
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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nobody wants a war with Russia... The EU has their tail between their legs and our only allies that remain appears to be Canada, Australia, UK, Japan, Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan. There may be more but many will be hesitant to help us and Russia/China seem to be strengthening each year while we weaken.
You are correct...the EU doesn't want to offend the Russians because of the Russian oil pipeline threat of being cut off.

If any hostiles breaks out the EU will basically sat back and watch the US take the lead and give all kinds of moral support without the use of their military. Which in most cases are ineffective because the EU has depended on the US since WWII for their overall protection.
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:30 AM
 
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The poll’s sponsor, COSA, advocates for a Constitutional Convention to severely restrict Government’s ability to spend and create debt, which is controlled by Congress.

Here’s more detail that shows more Republicans support boots on the ground than Democrats.
Newsweek chose to ignore this.

https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/wp...ull-Report.pdf

Like most polls, the sampling was small and relies on responders to self identify.

People have a tendency to buy into polls when the outcome seems to validate their perceptions and dismiss those that do not.
"Like most polls," they poll LESS repubs then dems and indys. Most have STOPPED telling us the political makeup of those polled. And NEVER tell us WHERE those polled live.

It DOES make a difference.
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Old 01-23-2022, 10:36 AM
 
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Biden is the most anti-war president we've had in a long time (finally ending the Afghanistan war).

Trying to make it seem Biden is responsible for Putin's actions is Biden Derangement Syndrome.
"he most anti-war president we've had in a long time"

We have been "at war" much longer under DEM presidents then repubs for a LONG time.
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Old 01-23-2022, 01:20 PM
 
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I don't think it matters what Americans want. We have an administration that wants a war.
Most every administration wants a war. If they don't start one, they'll keep one going. Got to feed that military industrial complex, don't 'cha know.
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