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"Smartened up and walked away!"
(set 28 days ago)
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus
If the Republican party dumps Trump, will moderate Dems who refute the radical leftists, who now control the DNC, & cross over to vote for the Pub candidate in '24?
Let's say the Republicans candidate is not a Trumpster...like Niki Haley (who says "Trump has no future role in the GOP"):
note: If the RNC dumps Trump, former Trump voters will still vote Republican imho. What are they going to do... vote for a radical leftist liberal Dem? Or, stay home and let the radical left continue their march towards socialism? No way...nearly all of them will vote Pub.
Note - the article was back in 2021 right after 1/6 when many Republicans were trying to distance themselves so as not to affect their own political careers. Whether Trump runs or not - many Dems will vote Republicans because we are sick of the wokeness of our own party.
Let's see the the Pubs dump Trump and disavow all of his
"stolen election" crap and then we'll talk.
Well it finally reached minus 2 degrees in my area. Almost ripe for the saying when h3ll freezes over. So it would be fair to follow your recommendation.
As someone advised earlier Haley may well be the Trojan horse... She could very well be playing both sides..
Since my foolish youthful decision to vote for Reagan back in 1980, the Republicans have constantly and continuously worked to erode any trust in their leadership. In the last few decades they have became more and more radical until today they are a clear and present danger to the survival of our Republic.
So even if they brought a perfectly reasonable candidate in 2024, it's very unlikely many will jump over to vote for them - because they have lost the trust of any Centrist or Independent at this point. Even if the candidate is a reasoned moderate, it's clear that the rest of the party will continue to be devoted to the goal of instituting one-party rule and dumping our Constitution into the trash.
You sound like a Tea Party refugee. Rand Paul would be your guy then. You don't have to look back upon anything he's said, or listen to anything he says today, or in the future. All you have to do is look at his voting record. He's one of the strictest Constitutionalists we have today in Washington DC.
A moderate will always be better received in both parties because that's where the bulk of their members fall. Unfortunately in recent years both parties have allowed their fringes to be their mouthpiece and talking points. The GOP needs to allow freedom of speech again because now any member speaking outside the party line is publicly lambasted by their peers, AOC may be a left side extreme but her colleges are not lining up in lock-step to repeat her view.
Nike Haley is an impressive candidate and has demonstrated herself well on the world stage, far better than fearless leader or some of his protege's
For pure theatre it would be swell to have 2024 be MTG vs AOC.
Neither represents a majority of likely voters regardless of party. But imagine the debates.
Republicans have a deep bench. Just off the top.
DeSantis
Haley
Cruz
Cotton
Pence
Pompeo
Cristie
There are more Independents than either Republicans or Democrats.
For me I need to see the Republican party start to behave more rationally. Right now the party is rife with lunatic concepts that are disturbing to watch.
"For me I need to see the Republican party start to behave more rationally."
Examples.
"Right now the party is rife with lunatic concepts that are disturbing to watch."
Name Them.
I could list all the "lunatic concepts" the left is pushing but wouldn't be able to get all of them in 1 posting!
Status:
"Let this year be over..."
(set 23 days ago)
Location: Where my bills arrive
19,219 posts, read 17,095,590 times
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Originally Posted by SanJuanStar
Stop the B.S. with "moderate" talk. The GOP nominated 2 very moderates and nice people in Dole and Romney and you Democrats destroyed their character like a young ugly weak kid getting beat up in school at lunch everyday.
Nikki Haley is a hack and a neo con like W Bush. Don't let her skirt fool you and the GOP doesn't need to return to the Bush doctrine disguise with a skirt and a tan.
Freedom of speech? yeah, like the Democrat party respects freedom of speech in the party. Ask Joe Lieberman,Geraldine Ferraro, Tulsi Gabbard, Manchin and Sinema to name a few and asked them what happens to people that goes against the party. How many generals Obama fired for a different opinion on foreign policy? Freedom of speech? thanks for the laugh.
So your boys didn't win, waaaa you can't always have your way. Name calling is all this current GOP really knows how to do because none of them can express an opinion outside the party line without this childish behavior (as you demonstrate).
How many people did Trump fire, talk about a revolving door administration. One day they are the greatest individual the next week their total scum and not worthy to serve so spare me. And always he was the export on everything because a Foreign Service official with 20 years experience knows nothing about International Diplomacy...
What Trump doesn't get is, millions of voters that voted for Biden, were not really for him, they were just against Trump. So depending on his next few years, and he runs again. Yes, Biden running could be a win for Repubs. Maybe the Dems can talk him out of it. There are many that would make a good president. But the smart ones dont want anything to do with it. Its mainly an ego position.
"What Trump doesn't get is, millions of voters that voted for Biden, were not really for him, they were just against Trump"
Please list the names of al the repubs you PERSONALLY asked this question to, in order for you to make such a claim.
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The GOP nominated 2 very moderates and nice people in Dole and Romney and you Democrats destroyed their character like a young ugly weak kid getting beat up in school at lunch everyday.
