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Old 01-24-2022, 11:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/s...29164822126594

Mike McCaul is a hardy Texan from the lone star state. He isn't some globalist commie lib.

Yet his number 1 political concern is defending Ukrainian nationalism from Russia.

Why does a pure blood Protestant Anglo-Saxon American concern himself with a Slavic debate over national identity that stretches back 1,000 years?

Can any of you pure blood truck driving all American folks explain this to me?
Why waste time explaining something to somebody so far off track. McCaul is Catholic btw.
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Old 01-24-2022, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Not our country, not our citizens, not our problem. It's up to the people of Ukraine to keep themselves independent, should they choose to. Not young Americans.

I guess you think we should have said the same to Poland and Czechoslovakia in 1939. Granted we didn't enter WW2 until 1941 when we were attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japan but a lot of Americans were concerned about Hitler's threat in Europe prior to Pearl Harbor. Many Americans answered the call on their own and served in the RAF and British military. Putin and the Kremlin pose a threat to not only Ukraine but also to Estonia and Latvia.

It's doubtful that U.S. ground forces will be involved in this scrape between Russia and Ukraine. Even if the Biden cabal wanted to commit troops after twenty years of war in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria the Army and Marine Corps really aren't in a position to pose a significant threat to the Russian military. The Russians are well aware of our military's current shortfalls and that we have an inept commander in chief. If there was ever a time to support our NATO allies since the fall of the Soviet Union this is it. There are ways that we can support NATO and Ukraine to show our solidarity with them without committing conventional ground troops to defend Ukraine.
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Old 01-24-2022, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Your bizarre and blatantly racist label of "pure blood" reveals you as a malignant person whose question should not be answered. instead you should be exposed and called out for what you are. An anti-American foreign shill here to divide and make trouble.

FYI - The grab bag of insulting labels you've been handed for this purpose are strangely out of touch with modern times. Some Iranian flunky in the intelligence apparatus watched too much Gangs of New York and came up with this 1860s slang used by nativist American movements of the time. You sound like Bill the butcher. Dial up your weak a$$ game. The au courant wokies call American conservatives white supremacists. There ... I've helped you in your stupid mission so that you don't look so lame and dumb. I'm going to check up on you periodically to make sure you've made yourself more relevant.
lol, I was being glib.

The point I'm getting at is how these all American hucksters convince their constituents that Ukrainian nationalism is a number 1 issue for Americans.

It seems like he is playing folks...
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Old 01-24-2022, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I guess you think we should have said the same to Poland and Czechoslovakia in 1939. Granted we didn't enter WW2 until 1941 when we were attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japan but a lot of Americans were concerned about Hitler's threat in Europe prior to Pearl Harbor. Many Americans answered the call on their own and served in the RAF and British military. Putin and the Kremlin pose a threat to not only Ukraine but also to Estonia and Latvia.

It's doubtful that U.S. ground forces will be involved in this scrape between Russia and Ukraine. Even if the Biden cabal wanted to commit troops after twenty years of war in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria the Army and Marine Corps really aren't in a position to pose a significant threat to the Russian military. The Russians are well aware of our military's current shortfalls and that we have an inept commander in chief. If there was ever a time to support our NATO allies since the fall of the Soviet Union this is it. There are ways that we can support NATO and Ukraine to show our solidarity with them without committing conventional ground troops to defend Ukraine.
Are these Americans concerned about ethnic-Russian civilians in Donbas being bombed by neo-nazi members of the Ukrainian armed forces?

Should we intervene on their behalf and over throw the government in Kiev as well?
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Old 01-25-2022, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/s...29164822126594

Mike McCaul is a hardy Texan from the lone star state. He isn't some globalist commie lib.

Yet his number 1 political concern is defending Ukrainian nationalism from Russia.

Why does a pure blood Protestant Anglo-Saxon American concern himself with a Slavic debate over national identity that stretches back 1,000 years?

Can any of you pure blood truck driving all American folks explain this to me?
Bad enough your OP is made up nonsense when you say, "his number 1 political concern is defending Ukrainian nationalism from Russia.".

But how does anyone explain something to someone who thinks one person defines a group?
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Old 01-25-2022, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Texas
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lol, I was being glib.

The point I'm getting at is how these all American hucksters convince their constituents that Ukrainian nationalism is a number 1 issue for Americans.

It seems like he is playing folks...
And you're not being played?

Quit voting for them. Every single President in my lifetime has illegally sent our troops into un Constitutional wars.
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Old 01-25-2022, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I guess you think we should have said the same to Poland and Czechoslovakia in 1939. Granted we didn't enter WW2 until 1941 when we were attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japan but a lot of Americans were concerned about Hitler's threat in Europe prior to Pearl Harbor. Many Americans answered the call on their own and served in the RAF and British military. Putin and the Kremlin pose a threat to not only Ukraine but also to Estonia and Latvia.

It's doubtful that U.S. ground forces will be involved in this scrape between Russia and Ukraine. Even if the Biden cabal wanted to commit troops after twenty years of war in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria the Army and Marine Corps really aren't in a position to pose a significant threat to the Russian military. The Russians are well aware of our military's current shortfalls and that we have an inept commander in chief. If there was ever a time to support our NATO allies since the fall of the Soviet Union this is it. There are ways that we can support NATO and Ukraine to show our solidarity with them without committing conventional ground troops to defend Ukraine.
Explain how this is a threat to our national security.

Where in the Constitution does it give the power over our national security.
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Old 01-25-2022, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Ukraine is a buffer zone for NATO and Russia

Once it's breached by either side, it's WW3.

It's the equivalent of Russia creating a military base in Mexico.
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Old 01-25-2022, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/s...29164822126594

Mike McCaul is a hardy Texan from the lone star state. He isn't some globalist commie lib.

Yet his number 1 political concern is defending Ukrainian nationalism from Russia.

Why does a pure blood Protestant Anglo-Saxon American concern himself with a Slavic debate over national identity that stretches back 1,000 years?

Can any of you pure blood truck driving all American folks explain this to me?
Simple. There must be something in it for him.
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Old 01-25-2022, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/s...29164822126594

Mike McCaul is a hardy Texan from the lone star state. He isn't some globalist commie lib.

Yet his number 1 political concern is defending Ukrainian nationalism from Russia.

Why does a pure blood Protestant Anglo-Saxon American concern himself with a Slavic debate over national identity that stretches back 1,000 years?

Can any of you pure blood truck driving all American folks explain this to me?
Here's what I'll explain to you.

First, you made assumptions about what people think. Don't do that.

Second, the reasons Russia is interested in Ukraine are about resources and geopolitical positioning. Ukraine has energy and food. They also have a pretty important submarine base on their western shores - maybe you've heard of Crimea? But do you hear those things from the media? Nope. They tell you that it's about ethnic identity or whatever, and you lap it up like a little kitten.

If the media informed you properly, you'd have a totally different context to put other information into, such as Hunter Biden's relationships in that region, and you might start questioning things they don't want people questioning.

And that attitude - that attitude you wrote that with made writing this post simply delicious. Thank you.
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