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For every lib that fled to Canada, there is another life that was sacrificed for their selfish cowardice. Gee................ I thought libs were all about not being "selfish". What could be more selfish than to allow someone else to die or be wounded in your place?
Reminds me of what John Bolton said on why he effectively became a draft dodger... "I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy. I considered the war in Vietnam already lost."
I'm struggling to understand how fighting in a war that killed millions of southeast Asians, which you believed was morally wrong, is somehow more noble than not. But as they say, "War is peace".
The draft dodgers aren't the evil people. It was the drafters. They are the ones to blame, and no one else.
If you do not stay, fight, and rebuild, where can you go?
Canada? Most of Canada is too cold, that is why the bulk of Canadians lives within five hrs drive of the US border.
Mexico? Not really. Unless you believe the narcotics cartels are better options.
I been overseas when I was active duty. Most foreigners have no problems dealing with Americans on a one-on-one basis. But unspoken is the harsh truth that even though they may like Americans on an individual basis, they do not care for Americans as a people. We are considered to be uncouth, crass, uncultured, immature, and a long list of adjectives that are associated with non-desirable people.
If the current government collapses, would you fight for a new national government for sake of a unified state?
Or would your support secession?
There would be no national government in a collapse, so there would be no unified state in the union. No one can secede from nothing. A collapse would be multiple successions at once, each with a limited amount of territory.
in a collapse some states would become almost. completely abandoned, while others with large populations would break up into many small territories.
The entire political structure would collapse along with the federal government. Any regional unification would come from a warlord.
It would become medieval.
Just like Afghanistan is, past and present.
Any American citizen would have to move north or south of our borders if they wanted to continue to live in a nation with a central government that's a democracy. Regionalism could continue for a very long time, given the size of our present nation.
Germany was nothing but a group of tiny little kingdoms until the dawn of the 20th century. They all got along for centuries in a constantly uneasy state of peace most of the time, but wars between them were frequent, and frequently short, eating just long enough to throw one warlord king out. The replacement always came very shortly afterwards.
Warlords cannot control a lot of territory. Territory is all about food and shelter. People would concentrate around those 2 things.
For the past century, and more, Americans rushed into battle every time there was a trumped-up enemy, even thought there was not the slightest glimmer a sustained threat to the nation or its way of life. The economy and culture were ust as much in danger in 2002. Without a single deserter, Americans rushed to proudly extirpate two harmless and defenseless nations, and would do so again. That's what Americans do.
No...not under the rule of the progressive establishment and the unlimited QE central bankers and these people that are promoting this culture of rewarding bad behavior, bailing everyone and everything out, force feeding us refugees with little to no vetting of them, promoting a something for nothing mentality, equity, going soft on crime, identity politics to subdivide us into a million different groups and have some of them play the victim, allowing the top one percent to buy everything up, inflating asset bubbles.
Both parties are to blame to a degree. Human nature is to blame. Not enough checks and balances to keep human nature in check. This government can't be salvaged with it's current leadership. The snow globe needs to be shaken, a new political party formed that can remove the democrats and Republicans from power, and the constitution revised to add more checks and balances to the accumulation of power and wealth and the ability to buy out politicians and form cliques and good ole boys clubs right down to the local level....to keep human nature in check.
You seem confused. What makes you think boomers love mercenaries or war for that matter? What makes you think they gladly send other peoples children to die? Those who fight volunteer. Mercenaries volunteer. What do boomers have to do with their choices?
Say we have a big economic collapse and our government stops functioning.
What percent of people will fight to rebuild the nation and what percent will either:
... B.) Secede from the union and partition it into minor countries ...
Sorry, we don't have a nation. I feel no more kinship with you (meaning in the general sense) than I feel for the Aymara peoples of Chile. I do feel a kinship with some in my own state, because the liberal population is generally in the minority here and concentrated around the cesspool area of Salt Lake City.
So, no, not going to fight to rebuild anything nationally because there is nothing to rebuild. Anything worth rebuilding disappeared about thirty or forty years ago.
Having said that, I WOULD fight to rebuild my state, as long as the first order of business was to deport the libs to your state. Fifty individual states where some of them retain the freedom guaranteed by the founding documents is better than one "nation" of slaves and elites.
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