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It is pretty scary to think about. I read about the cold war and the paranoia that came with potential war with another nuclear power. You think it can get that bad still?
As for the war itself and our leaders. Since I was a kid, we've always been at war with some country(I mean we always have). But mainly, the middle east. My pops went to Iraq in the 90s, and he went again after 9/11 . And we've been stuck there since then. This is why I laugh when people point fingers at solely biden when our country has been waging wars for special interests since vietnam.
But Biden's hands aren't clean either.
And lets not pretend conservatives didn't have a war boner for Iran.
As for the current situation, here's how I see it. We have world leaders, specifically, Putin, another imperialist leader, looking to take back what they see as their land. With other nations opposing him, to me, it's insane how our civilizations could end because of one man's reluctance to leave another nation alone.
Of course, the US has a bad history of meddling in other countries. But we always bullied 3rd world countries and most rich countries don't care because they too exploit poorer countries.
But I think it's amazing how the fate of the world hangs into balance by men who are essentially playing real-life Command and Conquer.
Putin, is ten thousand times the leader Biden is for his country. Not saying I agree with Putin, I’m just saying for his people, he is a true leader. The man does not bluff and he does not back down. He’s been waiting for his moment. Could we take Russia in a conventional war? Easily, HOWEVER in a nuclear exchange there are no winners, only losers. And Russia has real nukes. And a whole lot of them.
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I predict supplying military equipment to Ukraine, plus beefing up NATOs Northeastern (Baltic) flank.
If Russia overruns Ukraine (very likely), there's talk of supplying Ukrainian insurgents. Giving them training and even giving them refuge in Poland, Slovakia, and Romania.
Wars are a lot easier to enter than they are to leave, as we found out in Afghanistan. If the West is prepared to fully (but indirectly) support the Ukrainian military, it may last much longer than Putin probably wants.
Putin, is ten thousand times the leader Biden is for his country. Could we take Russia in a conventional war? Easily, HOWEVER in a nuclear exchange there are no winners, only losers. And Russia has real nukes. And a whole lot of them.
I wouldn't be so sure. We lost every single war with third world poor and inexperienced countries. And Russian soldiers are one of a kind. Their military is skilled and we don't even know their real potential.
So, no - I don't think anything with them would be easy. And I doubt we would win...
I wouldn't be so sure. We lost every single war with third world poor and inexperienced countries. And Russian soldiers are one of a kind. Their military is skilled and we don't even know their real potential.
So, no - I don't think anything with them would be easy. And I doubt we would win...
I'm pretty sure they have nuclear tipped hypersonic missiles that we are defenseless against. So escalating things to the nuclear level wouldn't be any more pleasant for anyone than a long, bitterly cold ground war, along with the potential of China, Iran, N Korea, Syria, and probably some old former Soviet bloc countries joining in on Russia's side.
I have no problem defending my country from attack. But that is in no way what we are talking about. I mean, how many Americans can even point out Ukraine on a map? Most Americans still call it "the Ukraine" which demonstrates why going there to defend it is about a stupid of an idea as they come. But we do have a whole lot of stupid in the white house right now... That truly is the wild card in all of this. God help America.
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I wouldn't be so sure. We lost every single war with third world poor and inexperienced countries. And Russian soldiers are one of a kind. Their military is skilled and we don't even know their real potential.
So, no - I don't think anything with them would be easy. And I doubt we would win...
Lost? We didn't surrender. We came, we dominated, we got bored, the people lost the will and we left. If we were truly that easy to defeat, the USA would have been conquered long ago.
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