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No. But that's not the metrics used by which to determine eligibility for a transplant. We also can't guarantee that the transplant won't kill him or that the anti-rejection medication won't kill him.
It's about best chances for success. If a patient does not choose the best chance for success as determined by the cardiac transplant team (which, as far as I know, none of us here can claim to be) then their eligibility for transplant will take that into consideration..
Are you claiming that you know this patient's full medical history and the YOU know what is BEST for HIM?
Is that your stance?
That you and your decision making ability for this patient's care is superior than what he is choosing because YOU know what's best for HIM?
Are you claiming that you know this patient's full medical history and the YOU know what is BEST for HIM?
Is that your stance?
That you your decision making ability for this patient's care is superior because YOU know what's best for HIM?
No one is claiming that. However, his doctors who know his full medical history and have been adapting to care for their patients during COVID absolutely know what's best for him.
From the update on his condition posted just above, it looks like it is too late for him to get the vax now. Very sad situation.
He's been in the hospital for 50 days and has known that for a transplant he would need vaccination. Further, he's been in the general population for the entirety of Covid. He's had over a year of opportunity to get vaccinated and almost two months to do so in the hospital.
I feel sorry for the guy's family. His principles aren't going to keep a roof over their heads.
OK, but what's the marginal benefit of this vaccine in a 31-year-old heart transplant patient with no other conditions? It increases his chances of not dying from a respiratory illness by what, 40 percentage points? Fifteen? Two? A tenth? Three thousandths? It's not evident to me that anyone on here has any real idea.
He's been in the hospital for 50 days and has known that for a transplant he would need vaccination. Further, he's been in the general population for the entirety of Covid. He's had over a year of opportunity to get vaccinated and almost two months to do so in the hospital.
I feel sorry for the guy's family. His principles aren't going to keep a roof over their heads.
He may claim that he is being persecuted for "his faith". This couldn't be farther from the truth. There is a valid medical reason for not giving organ transplants to those who won't get vaccines. It has nothing to do with discrimination against someone for being Christian.
If he gets an organ transplant and has to take immuno-suppressant drugs, there's a pretty good chance covid will kill him. And as he isn't vaxxed, there's a very high chance he will contract covid probably within a few months to a few years.
I'd rather take my risks with the vaccine.
Besides there are no guarantees that any drug or any medical procedure won't kill somebody.
No one is claiming that. However, his doctors who know his full medical history and have been adapting to care for their patients during COVID absolutely know what's best for him.
Why do you think you know better than them?
I did listen to what the doctors said. Did you???
The vaccine typically causes swelling in the heart (usually temporary for most people no big deal right?)
But in DJs case he can NOT afford for his heart to swell any more than it already is right now.
He is at extremely high risk of sudden death if it does.
We have had many conversations with the doctors, who confirmed that his heart COULD swell and go into severe crisis but they can't guarantee anything and it's a choice we will have to make if he wants to be listed.
This Plandemic has been a political power play from the beginning.
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