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Can you also explain why there is so much discussion and coverage of this case around the planet if this requirement has been around for so long?
Because people have embraced the idea that their oppositional defiance disorder is somehow equivalent to expertise.
Candidate A for a transplant organ goes with the expert recommendations for maximizing his chances of surviving as long as possible - up to and including preparing his immune system for the most prevalent virus present right now.
Nah. It's akin to Jehova's Witnesses refusing blood transfusions. Their choice, but they don't get to complain about the outcome. Which, in their favor, they tend not to do.
And when your behavior makes a Jehovah's Witness look reasonable, you're on the wrong end of the argument.
They either believe what they are saying and are, thus, incompetent OR they are outright lying.
Neither one is good.
The cloth masks were just as useless two years ago, as they are today. But the timid sheeple doctors all went along with this farce. Only now, two years later, are the clowns agreeing to question the effectiveness of these cheap cloth and paper masks. Why? Because like good little toadies, they waited until the CDC finally admitted the truth.
How many tens of thousands of people were recklessly spreading and contracting COVID, because they were lied to by our government and doctors too afraid to speak the truth, and convinced that those cheap masks were "protecting them from infection?"
Nah. It's akin to Jehova's Witnesses refusing blood transfusions. Their choice, but they don't get to complain about the outcome. Which, in their favor, they tend not to do.
And when your behavior makes a Jehovah's Witness look reasonable, you're on the wrong end of the argument.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and reject that ridiculous comparison.
I'm finding that out. I appreciate the response and I follow the logic you're giving.
It's not quite the same logic others are giving, which is why I'm asking all these questions. Others are saying, no, this guy is probably going to die if he gets Covid, so he needs to be vaccinated, but no one seems to be able to quantify that (including the one poster that made an incredibly snotty remark about "laypeople not being able to interpret medical data" -- as if I have access to the data, that's why I'm asking the question, I mean, hello?).
If his refusal to get this vaccine were the only thing that anyone could point to that smelled like "non-compliance," would they still refuse him the transplant? Just trying to understand this better.
A family member had a transplant 2 yrs ago. Here are facts:
There are not enough organs for people waiting on transplants. People die every day waiting on organs.
To get on the transplant lists, the patient must go through a pre-transplant regimen, depending on the organ, that includes full physical workups and a myriad of tests and reviews including dental and psychological, getting multiple vaccines - flu, pneumonia, shingles, etc. Why the vaccines pre-transplant? Because the patient will be on strong immunosuppressants post-transplant and the vaccines may not work as well, so they get them in advance.
The patient must have a positive attitude and have family for support post-transplant, hence the psych screening. Patient must also be in good enough shape to go through this major surgery. Very ill people will not make it on the list because they will likely not survive transplantation.
The transplant programs are staffed by the best doctors and nurses in the industry. Very impressive. They want everyone to win. They want to save lives. They are experienced. They know your odds of survival post-transplant - and they want to improve those odds when possible.
The transplant lists span hospitals and regions. It is a well-oiled machine.
Post transplant is a flurry of clinic visits, a bagful of confusing and expensive meds that are being adjusted daily and weekly and monthly, pain management and sometimes tough physical rehab. During clinic visits more tests are run, biopsies are done to watch for rejection, patient and family are drilled over meds list and general health (did you get your teeth cleaned, have you been to dermatology, are you physically active...). You are like a prized lab rat and they DO NOT WANT YOU TO DIE under their watch.
About immuno-suppressants: they are powerful meds that hinder your body's natural immune system so your new organ will not be rejected. Rejection is a cause of death. Without a normal immune system you are much more apt to get cancers (especially skin cancer), bacterial and viral infections, and if you do, you will have a harder time fighting these - including Covid and Covid complications such as deadly pneumonia. It would be a ****ing disaster for a post-transplant patient to get Covid.
In summary - being a transplant patient is not like getting a tooth pulled or even having a baby. It's a serious big-ass, life-changing, life-saving deal, and if you are non-compliant pre-transplant, you'll be non-compliant post-transplant. And that will mean not getting on the precious waiting list.
The person in the news received a machine called an LVAD. The doctors want him to live, otherwise they wouldn't have given him that. That's major, life-saving surgery right there. He can have that and not the transplant because with the LVAD you do not have to be on immuno-suppressants. Many people on heart transplant list end up getting the LVAD because they've waited too long or are too ill for the transplant.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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